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Jun 30, 2012 14:46:44 GMT -5
Post by Glutton4Punishment on Jun 30, 2012 14:46:44 GMT -5
The Gracies have been McDojoifying their style for ages. Learn at home DVD sets? Come on, man.
Call me a heathen, but I really like newer and more modern No-Gi training. Not that Gi isn't important, but No-Gi in my opinion is more applicable to fighting in most cases. Especially around here where people only wear jackets for like a month a year lol
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Keyboard Warrior
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Jun 30, 2012 16:09:09 GMT -5
Post by Keyboard Warrior on Jun 30, 2012 16:09:09 GMT -5
I mainly train no-gi. I don't like gi because you grow overly dependent of it, for leverage, and control. But most BJJ guys say that Gi guys perform alot better than no-gi guys.
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odee
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Jun 30, 2012 18:48:19 GMT -5
Post by odee on Jun 30, 2012 18:48:19 GMT -5
Well yeah, most people wear clothes. Not only is the gi useful to you it's another weapon your opponent can use. Being 50-50 means you know how to work both ways.
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Jun 30, 2012 19:36:09 GMT -5
Post by rikashiku on Jun 30, 2012 19:36:09 GMT -5
Thats the problem. There are barely any traditional BJJ gyms even among the Gracies gyms. Hell I remember how people found out that they staged fights to promote their gyms.
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Jul 3, 2012 16:43:46 GMT -5
Post by Johnnie on Jul 3, 2012 16:43:46 GMT -5
Gracie schools are still very self-defense based. They just opened up one in my town, and unfortunately its more McDojoish now. They give you a checklist card, and you essentially just classes check marked after you go to them. Then when you complete a certain amount of them, you get a stripe. It's bullshit. Are you serious!?!? That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. I'd be glad if it were that easy to level up, but honestly, it's not about how or what classes you take. Sure they teach you a technique but to apply it is a totally different thing. Matt time matters most really. It's sad hearing a school like that opened up in your place. Here in Fresno we have 5 major gyms that teach Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu I believe, and about 3 small gyms that teach Judo, and one major gym for Judo. A Gracie gym as well, but I don't believe they go by the McDojo style. Still though, I believe my gym (Dethrone Basecamp #2) has an advantage. Our instructor is an amazing wrestler as well and always throws that in there with our BJJ. Actually, all of our instructors are former wrestlers, except one that recently left our gym. He was a black belt but still he was kind of a douche. He was probably in his early 40's and cranky. Either way, MY INSTRUCTOR IS BETTER THAN YOUR INSTRUCTOR. I don't know.
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Jul 8, 2012 5:50:02 GMT -5
Post by Chef Samurai on Jul 8, 2012 5:50:02 GMT -5
there are so many different gracie schools out there now and they all follow different organizations that do different things like gracie berra & gracie acedemy & gracie whatever but they are all different and a few are mcdojos run by gracie family members just trying to cash in on the family name.
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Jul 8, 2012 5:58:22 GMT -5
Post by gunter on Jul 8, 2012 5:58:22 GMT -5
i love the gi choke wear u pull the two sides near the neck....forget the name though. yes some gracies have mcdojoed....a gracie barra near me is terrible but the MMA gym near it has BJJ by a brazilian top team bb and he is great
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Jul 8, 2012 5:58:40 GMT -5
Post by gunter on Jul 8, 2012 5:58:40 GMT -5
avoid any with kid classes
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odee
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Jul 8, 2012 6:17:06 GMT -5
Post by odee on Jul 8, 2012 6:17:06 GMT -5
I have a Judo question. I know a lot of people aren't fans of their tournament points converting to experience points towards a belt set up and I've only ever encountered two Judo students, both of who were good fighters. Has anybody actually encountered a bad Judo school with the tournament experience system in place?
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Jul 8, 2012 6:23:09 GMT -5
Post by gunter on Jul 8, 2012 6:23:09 GMT -5
odee a little bit. I saw a Judo school with the tourament experience points in place that were good at judo touraments but when merged with a BJJ school they were rubbish compared to the BJJ guys. They were soft too
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Jul 8, 2012 6:36:32 GMT -5
Post by odee on Jul 8, 2012 6:36:32 GMT -5
You mean they were crappy grapplers or they couldn't take a punch?
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Jul 8, 2012 6:38:43 GMT -5
Post by gunter on Jul 8, 2012 6:38:43 GMT -5
they were shit on the ground (they had good pins but little submissions) and couldnt take a punch.
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Jul 8, 2012 6:44:50 GMT -5
Post by odee on Jul 8, 2012 6:44:50 GMT -5
There goes the tournament experience logic. On the other hand at least they're good at something, that's somewhere to build from. I wonder if you could call that a semi McDojo...?
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Jul 8, 2012 6:51:23 GMT -5
Post by gunter on Jul 8, 2012 6:51:23 GMT -5
they were very good at Judo though. And i been told that the ones who cross train in BJJ are good
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Jul 8, 2012 7:40:16 GMT -5
Post by odee on Jul 8, 2012 7:40:16 GMT -5
I think learning to wear a punch in the mouth should be one of the first lessons in any martial art.
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