odee
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Post by odee on Oct 12, 2012 17:18:55 GMT -5
Musashi had a lot of points in his favour when he fought the battle against the sword school. *Ability - Musashi was a faster runner than the people persuing him meaning he could stay ahead of them. The people of the school had different fitness levels meaning some could run faster than others. *Tactics - Because the students didn't use any they wound up attacking Musashi in ones and twos rather than as a group which they believed Musashi would have simply outrun anyway. *Fitness - Musashi had the fitness to keep his tactics long enough to run out of enemies. *The X-Factor - Both Musashi's highly mobile fighting style and the use of one sword in each hand rather than the common one sword held two handed style allowed him to attack in ways that very few swordsmen of the era had ever seen before, let alone trained for. This made him completely unpredictable and able to attack with little fear of being countered or even blocked. You can compare it to Royce Gracie in UFC 1 to see what I mean about unpredictability, it can be damn near impossible to stop something you've never encountered before. Just about every 'complete' fighting style on earth had let their groundwork slip because they'd stopped training for it and students had never experienced it, it's the reason that the only people Royce struggled against were Wrestlers and Judoka.
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Post by jwbulldogs on Oct 20, 2012 1:17:31 GMT -5
Glutton, those nurse received training on how to restrain patience. Generally some martial artist has taught this to the nurse and other staff. Then they begin having workshops on how to restrain patients effectively and without hurting them. They are required to maintain their licenses or for promotion to have additional training. Later because enough nurses are well trained they can host this training themselves as part of some professional development. They no longer need a guy like you or I to come in and train about 15 over a given weekend. Now these nurses do not know self defense. They just know how to use a few techniques in the context that they might see on their jobs. No different than when in the NFL guys like Jerry Rice employed a martial arts instructor to teach him the swim move. Bigger defensive players wanted to jam him at the line and use their physical strength to slow Rice down. This allowed him to get off of the line and not be overtaken by much bigger and stronger guys. He simply learned how to redirect their energy. After learning of this other teams began to hire Martial Arts instructors to help them. Now every team teaches this skill themselves. Again they weren't learning self defense.
Odee, makes a valid point. It is hard if not impossible to defend against something you have never experienced. The problem was these guys that fought weren't being taught or they weren't practicing a complete system. They were only preparing for a sport. The rules of the sport dictated what they were learning. If the guy was a karateka he was only learning or practicing a portion of his art. He training to fight and only defend against attacks in areas where his competitor score. That is not a complete art. As a martial artist you should learn to disable the entire body. You should learn the different fighting ranges. You should be able defend while standing, kneeling, sitting, or laying.
Much like judo. There are high level black belts that will tell you there is no striking in judo. They only practice and teach the sport instead of the art. When I began judo we learn how to defend against kicks and punches using our art. We learned to strike as we threw a guy and after we threw. We learned how to destroy limbs, not just pin a guy with kesa or kata gatame. But when i went to another dojo to train, that was not included in their training. They spent most of their training working on newaza. There was very little nage waza. There was no self defense being taught. He was a good instructor and a former alternate for the Olympics. But he wasn't teaching the complete art.
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odee
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Post by odee on Oct 20, 2012 6:14:11 GMT -5
I still hold to the point that there are a majority of schools claiming to teach the whole art that simply don't teach it under any kind of pressure. The students learn the whole art but never learn the application under stress. That's like reading a service book for a car but never touching the actual vehicle or learning to swim without getting in the water. Personally I think it's better to be a master of only your fists than knowing how to do everything but never having done it.
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Post by jwbulldogs on Oct 20, 2012 17:55:09 GMT -5
If you are not practicing under pressure are stress I wouldn't put too much stock into it. We believe in testing everything in our class. The higher in rank the more pressure you are put under.
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