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Chef Samurai Global Moderator Canadian Catch Wrestling Posts: 843	the real kimura lock as taught by his student Nov 28, 2012 18:03:30 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Chef Samurai on Nov 28, 2012 18:03:30 GMT -5 ever wonder how kimura did his famous lock & tired of being deceived by the gracies on how it was done? well here it is as taught by one of Masahiko Kimuras top students sensei Kanei Iwatsuri.
	Last Edit: Nov 29, 2012 20:53:51 GMT -5 by Chef Samurai So far I've come in heavy weight, middleweight and your girlfriend.

odee Global Moderator Kyokushin 10 years - Brazilian Jujitsu 3 years - Muay Thai 2 years. Posts: 1,286	the real kimura lock as taught by his student Dec 1, 2012 0:54:43 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by odee on Dec 1, 2012 0:54:43 GMT -5 Maybe the Gracies only ever felt it's wrath, they were never actually taught the move...?
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Chef Samurai Global Moderator Canadian Catch Wrestling Posts: 843	the real kimura lock as taught by his student Dec 1, 2012 4:23:23 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Chef Samurai on Dec 1, 2012 4:23:23 GMT -5 lol I bet your right! It's not too different, but the differences are there in the application & I love the throws!!
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odee Global Moderator Kyokushin 10 years - Brazilian Jujitsu 3 years - Muay Thai 2 years. Posts: 1,286	the real kimura lock as taught by his student Dec 1, 2012 5:28:37 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by odee on Dec 1, 2012 5:28:37 GMT -5 Me too, I think some of those could even be used in a Muay Thai clinch - With gloves.
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the real kimura lock as taught by his student Dec 2, 2012 0:50:05 GMT -5

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Post by Chef Samurai on Dec 2, 2012 0:50:05 GMT -5

Sounds feasible to me.

It's strange how he uses the hand for grip which is how catch does it & I heard Kimura learned a bit of catch from Rikidozan who could have taught him that variation.

I played a bit with the gi grip variation form the turtle about 2/3 into the vid and if you have it in it's impossible to escape from what I can tell & now me and my buddy call it the true Kimura lol

I also found a dvd of kosen judo I want to buy & I'll post the preview in another page for people to see.

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odee Global Moderator Kyokushin 10 years - Brazilian Jujitsu 3 years - Muay Thai 2 years. Posts: 1,286	the real kimura lock as taught by his student Dec 2, 2012 6:36:54 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by odee on Dec 2, 2012 6:36:54 GMT -5 Sounds like a plan. I'll let you know how my Kimura throw goes when I try it.
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Chef Samurai Global Moderator Canadian Catch Wrestling Posts: 843	the real kimura lock as taught by his student Dec 2, 2012 22:28:47 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Chef Samurai on Dec 2, 2012 22:28:47 GMT -5 I'd love to hear it & I want to try it out too against my judo buddy but it's cold and we usually roll outside in his yard so were limited to a bit of indoor ne-waza usually in the winter
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odee Global Moderator Kyokushin 10 years - Brazilian Jujitsu 3 years - Muay Thai 2 years. Posts: 1,286	the real kimura lock as taught by his student Dec 3, 2012 6:30:35 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by odee on Dec 3, 2012 6:30:35 GMT -5 Not this time. I goofed it up and my sparring partner rolled over my hip and back to his feet, he was cluey to it after that. It really needs to be snuck in with more finesse than I possess.
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the real kimura lock as taught by his student Dec 3, 2012 23:46:22 GMT -5

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Post by Chef Samurai on Dec 3, 2012 23:46:22 GMT -5

To me it feels like I need a lot more practice to do it & english instructions would help too lol

It feels like just when you land you need to hit a solid base immediately so you can get it or you'll be thrown with their momentum.

Did you try any others that the standing version at first?

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odee Global Moderator Kyokushin 10 years - Brazilian Jujitsu 3 years - Muay Thai 2 years. Posts: 1,286	the real kimura lock as taught by his student Dec 4, 2012 9:46:49 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by odee on Dec 4, 2012 9:46:49 GMT -5 Others were all kids. I was afraid of breaking one of them.
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Chef Samurai Global Moderator Canadian Catch Wrestling Posts: 843	the real kimura lock as taught by his student Dec 11, 2012 22:55:45 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Chef Samurai on Dec 11, 2012 22:55:45 GMT -5 I don't blame you then.
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the real kimura lock as taught by his student Dec 12, 2012 5:59:27 GMT -5

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Post by odee on Dec 12, 2012 5:59:27 GMT -5

I'm still struggling. I've got the day shifts so I'm sparring with better sparring partners and I've been trying to get the throw in but it's not an easy task, you only get one shot and it's really obvious after that what you were up to.

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the real kimura lock as taught by his student Dec 12, 2012 6:45:32 GMT -5

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Post by Chef Samurai on Dec 12, 2012 6:45:32 GMT -5

Personally I noticed if you can put the kimura on standing then roll into it it's easier than anyhting else I tries.

It just takes some practice to get that standing kimura on and doing everything fast before you get countered from what I can tell.

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odee Global Moderator Kyokushin 10 years - Brazilian Jujitsu 3 years - Muay Thai 2 years. Posts: 1,286	the real kimura lock as taught by his student Dec 13, 2012 15:52:26 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by odee on Dec 13, 2012 15:52:26 GMT -5 True dat. I was just after completion of the throw before worrying about the continuation of the attack.
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Chef Samurai Global Moderator Canadian Catch Wrestling Posts: 843	the real kimura lock as taught by his student Dec 15, 2012 3:36:30 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Chef Samurai on Dec 15, 2012 3:36:30 GMT -5 remember, positions before submission.
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