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Post by odee on Dec 7, 2012 17:53:00 GMT -5
I've always wanted to try Judo but there has never been a school nearby. The nearest I know of is about two hours away in Brisbane.
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Post by Glutton4Punishment on Dec 7, 2012 17:54:52 GMT -5
I enjoyed it, but mine definitely had a strong sport focus for the most part. I had a bit of training with a more old school instructor, but by far most of it was with a coach that competed in the Olympics twice and definitely knew the ins and outs of the competitive side of Judo.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2012 18:39:15 GMT -5
I am a big fan of Yoshida.....thanks for the vid
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Post by Chef Samurai on Dec 7, 2012 20:19:47 GMT -5
So in a sense, BJJ is more Judo than most Judo? Nice! I'm glad we have a Martial Arts History buff around. Looking at older stuff like that almost gives a voice to the art itself. Yes and no... it get's kinda complicated when you get into the whole division thingy. I would say yes because all the stuff you hear about judoka doing 100 years ago and dominating everyone is what bjj is doing now & people always forget judo was influenced by wrestling because all the cross style competitions which took place & is the same thing happening now. I enjoyed it, but mine definitely had a strong sport focus for the most part. I had a bit of training with a more old school instructor, but by far most of it was with a coach that competed in the Olympics twice and definitely knew the ins and outs of the competitive side of Judo. That's another thing too is over the past 100 years judos rules have changed drastically from basically a grappling match with gi's and all submissions allowed to a greco-roman wrestling match with gis on but the funny thing is greco allows more submissions in jr matches!!! And anyone REALLY good at what they do is will whoop your ass if your not on the same level with them the only way to prevent it is to bend the rules in your favor. I've always wanted to try Judo but there has never been a school nearby. The nearest I know of is about two hours away in Brisbane. You'd be surprised where you can find someone who knows judo but I don't know about australia but up here in canada judo is mostly found at colleges, universities & ymca type places taught by volunteers like my main training partner I'm pretty sure he learned it at kiwanis club. Not all places are public either & I've met a few people who run private schools that are hard to find that might exist that are pretty much run by guys like you or me.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2012 1:16:24 GMT -5
I agree with you Chef that Judo was influenced by wrestling.
Judo was born from the non deadly techniques of Jujutsu and to be used as a sport. It was also influenced by cross style matches. Judo beat Jujutsu fighters and in the early days up to the 1920's they fought (sometimes lost and sometimes won) a number of Catch wrestlers. Some wrestling throws also made there way into Judo like the fireman carry (I forget the Judo name).
Its a shame how Judo has progressed. I agree that its like Greco-roman wrestling but with less submissions.
In Australia, its very much like Canada. Judo can mostly be found at universities and PCYC (Police Citizen Youth Clubs) clubs. Some are not but they are rare. The rest usually belong to other organizations.
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Post by Chef Samurai on Dec 8, 2012 3:55:06 GMT -5
I agree with you Chef that Judo was influenced by wrestling. Judo was born from the non deadly techniques of Jujutsu and to be used as a sport. It was also influenced by cross style matches. Judo beat Jujutsu fighters and in the early days up to the 1920's they fought (sometimes lost and sometimes won) a number of Catch wrestlers. Some wrestling throws also made there way into Judo like the fireman carry (I forget the Judo name). Thanks man your one of the few who agree sadly... & that's another common conception that judo was created to be a sport... Judo was created as a complete self-defence style with striking, throws & ground fighting that eliminated the deadly samurai killing techniques because you don't have to kill your opponent in self-defence. It became a sport because of the japanese school board said it was still to rough for the kids so kano went back to the drawing board and devised a method of "softening" his system by emphasizing breakfalls & throws that land in breakfalls. Sportive Jujutsu contest's had been around for sometime already at this point & I'm sure kano based the rules on those ones he already encountered. And the 2 styles of judo (school & regular) overlapped but the school one became most prominent and dominated judo creating the atrocity we have today. Its a shame how Judo has progressed. I agree that its like Greco-roman wrestling but with less submissions. And your right is a shame and It's really only the junior judo that had no chokes or arm locks allowed that has less subs than greco roman because greco's subs are limited to being used as pain compliance for movement only. like hammerlocks in greco are used to roll you over with the pain in your shoulder rather than just outright crank on your shoulder like a traditional hammerlock from catch would. Modern judo for adults has more subs than greco because it allows chokes & elbow locks but for kids judo has no subs at all but in sambo, bjj, catch & luta livre they can go crazy with the subs they want.
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Post by odee on Dec 8, 2012 5:59:15 GMT -5
We have Aikido at the university and Kenpo Ni Jujitsu Karate at the PCYC. I like that name - Kenpo Ni Jujitsu Karate...sounds like the tags you write in a youtube video to cover as many audiences as possible.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2012 6:04:19 GMT -5
The PCYC near me has Aikido, Boxing, Judo, MMA, Taekwondo and Wrestling.
When I was at university, the sport club there had Aikido, Judo, Budokan Karate, Kendo, Taekwondo and Taido plus sports
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Post by odee on Dec 8, 2012 6:12:03 GMT -5
Lucky you city-boy.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2012 6:16:42 GMT -5
I stopped training Judo because where I was didn't teach any kata or the strikes. It was only sport focused and they didnt teach anything that couldn't be used for competition or gradings.
When I did BJJ (Gracie Barra), well they taught self defense and strikes......funny world eh
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Post by odee on Dec 8, 2012 6:22:40 GMT -5
Meh. The Gym I train at is mostly a shop front that has been segmented into training areas.
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Post by Glutton4Punishment on Dec 8, 2012 12:18:16 GMT -5
My Judo class was held out of a Gracie Barra school. BJJ was, of course, the most popular style there, but the owner brought in guys for Wrestling, Muay Thai, Boxing, and Judo - My coach. It was a pretty cool school as far as Gracie Barra schools go (I hated the payment methods and I didn't like the BJJ class they held, but I liked the Boxing and the Judo there). Definitely not a regular store front. It was it's own stand alone building and it was HUGE! All of the styles could be trained in at the same time in their own spaces.
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Post by odee on Dec 8, 2012 14:39:18 GMT -5
That is big. There's only BJJ and Muay Thai at mine, used to be a small hardware shop.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2012 18:55:29 GMT -5
LOL! I'm from the country but went to Sydney to study. Then moved back. LOL!
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Post by odee on Dec 9, 2012 7:55:09 GMT -5
Oh? How far away from Sydney did you live? I was from Maitland when I was a tyke.
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