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Post by Glutton4Punishment on Apr 26, 2013 0:45:00 GMT -5
I don't mind seeing them here, either, I just won't count them as part of the challenge.
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Post by odee on Apr 26, 2013 18:28:53 GMT -5
I'll find it. Problem is it was in a thread and I shut the page down.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2013 22:07:51 GMT -5
Just because there's no video proof of using TMA in a street fight and winning doesn't mean it doesn't work. I've had to use my Bajiquan in a fight while walking home with my fiance. I used Shuang Bao Tou Ding technique and the guy dropped to the ground and ran away. This really happened and I have no reason to lie but it's your choice whether or not to believe me. If you do, I hope this changed your mind about TMA working. If not, well, you don't. It's that simple.
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Post by odee on May 6, 2013 23:35:56 GMT -5
@xbaji Glutton isn't saying traditional fighting styles don't work, he knows well enough that all the moves utilised in sports are from combat tested styles - that isn't the point of the thread, the point he's trying to get across is that a lot of people who train 'traditional' claim that sport styles are no good for self defense, multiple person scenarios or 'real' fighting when "There are no rules". He's offered filmed incidents of sport stylists getting involved in multiple attacker situations and using their 'sport' to defend themselves, now he's just asking traditionalists to match him video for video.
The difficulty of the task is that unless somebody is somehow well known it's impossible to confirm or deny what they practice and most well known martial artists as you're probably realising are athletes.
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Post by Glutton4Punishment on May 6, 2013 23:40:11 GMT -5
Odee is 100% correct about my intention.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2013 14:46:32 GMT -5
I must have read that wrong. If it's that, then can't all styles, including sport styles be effective in a self defense situation?
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Post by Glutton4Punishment on May 7, 2013 22:05:36 GMT -5
That's exactly the point I'm sort of hiding behind the challenge. The common opinion on Y!A for example is that there are "Arts" and "Sports" and that the "Sports" are "JUST Sports" and that they'll NEVER be good in a real fight. The point of this challenge is primarily to show the merit of "Sports" for real fighting, I want people to see by searching that there's no more evidence for TMA working against multiple opponents than "Sports" when you actually look into it.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2013 14:26:48 GMT -5
And I absolutely agree with you Glutton. In my opinion, arts are arts and sports are sport but just because they're sports doesn't mean they're not effective for real fighting. It's not the art, it's the person and that is a fact.
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Post by Glutton4Punishment on May 8, 2013 20:40:13 GMT -5
I don't even consider them "Sports" hence why I put the quotes around them. They're martial arts that incorporate competition as another training outlet. Muay Thai is often referred to as just being a Sport and yet it has roots going back two thousand years as a style made for war and still contains strikes to illegal areas and attacks to the eyes depending on who your teacher is. I think people see the competitive side and think that's all there is to a style without actually getting experience in it.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2013 16:20:35 GMT -5
That's a good point.
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Post by odee on May 9, 2013 20:09:57 GMT -5
I'm an idiot. I just realised something about the report I was going to put up. Bas is Dutch and his incident happended in Sweden, so why would the "Official" report be written in English?
*Puts on a dunce hat and trundles off into a corner*
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Post by Glutton4Punishment on May 9, 2013 23:48:07 GMT -5
Swedish people are usually bilingual and speak both English and Swedish. It very well could be in English.
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