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Post by gunter on Jul 3, 2012 7:09:33 GMT -5
Ok, lets get it on.
Which martial arts to avoid?
I hear heaps of shit against Boxing, BJJ as there mainly sports and even more shit against Wing Chun and Taekwondo.
So tell me which and why!
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Post by Chef Samurai on Jul 3, 2012 9:49:19 GMT -5
Stay away from anything taught by an idiot or a fraud other than that anythings good.
I've seen good people from bad styles and bad people from good styles it works both ways.
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Post by the tank on Jul 3, 2012 10:18:29 GMT -5
Very often is not the martial art, but the school, or mcdojos that you have to avoid, here are some signs in order to avoid them:
Instead of focusing on sparring, the class is mostly divided into practicing kata/forms, one-steps, board breaks, etc.. The school or instructor promotes the idea that his school and/or style is the ultimate best in the world, or that cross training in another form of martial arts is 100% unnecessary. If the school or instructor forbids entering tournaments, or if tournaments are restricted to specific styles or associations. If the idea of take-downs or wrestling is never addressed, or if "anti-grappling" techniques are taught. If the test for belt advancement consists mostly or entirely of memorization and making your form & one-steps look pretty If board breaking has a heavy emphasis, or is taught to be an indicating to how well you would fight, or is used as a supplement to full contact fighting. [What is wrong with this?] If the school has too many belts, or made up belts (such as camouflage belts) If the school insists on long contracts and or uses collection agencies for late or missed payments. If there are expensive clubs that you must join in order to learn or participate in various clinics or seminars, such as the "black belt club", or "masters club" If the school owns an actual franchise, such as "Karate for Kids" or "Tiny Tigers" If the school uses a pitch book to get you to join or to convince you to sign your kids up If the self-defense techniques that are taught aren't at full speed or contact, or if the school is insistent only on one way of doing it If the equipment (gear/uniforms/weapons) costs too much and/or is only ordered through the organization If testing and monthly fees are excessive, for any reason If the instructor is a master, yet under 40. If the instructor's credentials seem sketchy or are non-existent. If the instructor proclaims to be a master of many arts, and is also extremely young. If the school advertises that the grandmaster of the style regularly teaches there If the school has many students, such as over 100, or if there are many black belts If once reaching black belt students are encouraged to go start their own school or consider teaching If ground-fighting is offered, it's exclusive to club members (which usually have a high fee) and/or not allowed until a high rank The instructor rarely works out with the students and has his assistants do most or all of the teaching If they teach weapons like the sai and nunchaku as a form of self-defense If they are a Chinese martial art and use karate belts If they glorify or try to imitate the Samurai or ninja.
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Post by friendlyvirus on Jul 3, 2012 14:05:08 GMT -5
ATA/STF taekwondo choi kwang do grand celestial do.
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Post by gunter on Jul 3, 2012 20:06:47 GMT -5
Im constantly told to stay away from Wing Chun, Tai Chi Chuan, Hapkido, Shotokan Karate, Taekwondo and Systema. Any truth in this?
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Post by odee on Jul 3, 2012 23:28:27 GMT -5
Not really. *People who teach and practice Wing Chun should generally be avoided or ignored, there are a few exceptions but most have pulled the pretentious blanket over their own heads. *Tai Chi Chuan depends. Most Tai Chi schools with no martial benefits are quite honest about their emphasis on health rather than self defense. I've met a few Tai Chi students who call themselves fighters and can back the claim but I've never encountered a Tai Chi school that claims self defense. *Hapkido is kind of rare in Australia, I've only ever met students from one school and I never saw them fight. *Shotokan Karate can go either way. I've met students from good and pitiful schools. One such school is the reason I'm studying Muay Thai and Brazilian Jujitsu instead of Karate. Only one Karate school in the area and it teaches Shotokan, poorly. *Taekwando has built a name on crappy schools and most of them properly suck. There are a minimal number of full-contact schools out there though. *Never encountered Systema. Ever.
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Post by talon on Jul 5, 2012 1:18:20 GMT -5
Personally I'd stay away from TKD {& wish someone had told me earlier}. But I strongly agree with Chef & I think with Frank {sorry not used to reading novels buddy } also.
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Post by KyKarateka on Sept 22, 2013 2:42:31 GMT -5
The only art I would really tell someone to stay away from is Ninjutsu. Legitimate dojos do exist but I've never heard of one or anyone who's been involved with one. I do quite a bit of martial arts research and if I haven't come across a single, half decent Ninjutsu dojo, the odds are the average person won't either.
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Post by odee on Sept 23, 2013 3:16:48 GMT -5
That was something that really hurt. I was told Ninjutsu was a dead art before I got my shodan but I had to look for myself to believe it - even as a twenty year old I wanted to believe it could be as good as what the ninja turtles were doing.
It was horrible.
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Post by Chino on Sept 23, 2013 15:57:28 GMT -5
Stay away from anything being taught by an obese man.
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Post by KyKarateka on Sept 23, 2013 21:07:29 GMT -5
The truth hurts Odee. What did you do in Ninjutsu when you were taking it?
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Post by odee on Sept 24, 2013 15:11:52 GMT -5
Lots of kata which I hoped might build up to something; I know a couple of Kenpo schools that start with just -Kata to get rid of the impatient then dump you in really hard sparring. -Believe it or not archery. -They had this drill that was a lot like 'slippery hands' or 'sticky hands' where you press your forearms against your opponent's then try and slap each other. -Cardio that felt like it had been designed for SWAT; a lot of commando rolls and burpies and not much else. -No sparring and you could tell the higher graded guys weren't getting it either.
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Post by KyKarateka on Sept 25, 2013 18:02:26 GMT -5
Lack of sparring is a dead giveaway lol
I actually took a week long archery course at a local range before. I still go occasionally with my friends.
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Post by odee on Sept 26, 2013 6:48:58 GMT -5
Archery to me is a bit like grappling and marksmanship, it's just not something that comes easily to me.
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Post by KyKarateka on Sept 26, 2013 17:54:15 GMT -5
It takes a little while to get the hang of but it's quite a bit of fun once you do.
I have to say, it's easier for me than grappling.
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