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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2012 6:46:31 GMT -5
Where I live there has been a huge increase in the last decade in violent assaults and knife attacks. Most of it happens at night caused by alcohol and drugs. It's down right scary at times. The inner city becomes like a war zone and how do you defend yourself against steriod and meth addicted monsters plus their friends?
Which martial arts will work for street self defense?
People told me striking like boxing, kickboxing and muay thai. But what about traditional ones like Wing Chun and Karate?
I need something and my Tai Chi Chuan is years away from being practical.
Advice please.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2012 6:47:33 GMT -5
I'm not asking which is better but which ones people know from experience or heard work in this specific situation. Attacks at night in the inner city by drunks, drug addicts etc
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Post by Chef Samurai on Jul 13, 2012 8:34:05 GMT -5
I personally take a 3 pronged aproach.
I train all the illegal stuff from combat sports
I spar under many combat sports rules to get good at different things like boxers are good punchers because the rules are they can only punch so they train their punches a lot more than most styles so.
I learn military style tactics & strategies so if things get really bad I can apply things in a full out offensive assault.
Personally I think each of the three main styles (sport, self defence & military) are lacking in certain areas that others can potentially make up for.
A good example is they have boxing gyms on us army bases so the soldiers who all know MAC & MCMAP can get good with their fists and have everything too but they just happen to spar with their fists so that becomes a priority & everything else is back up which is ok because the fists are important weapons because you always have one to attack & one to defend unlike your legs when you kick you always need one for a base & your balance and mobility are compromised until both feet are on the ground.
Any style can be good it's about your training & how good your teacher is & how good you are and many other variables like the position of venus & the tide and such that I don't fully understand lol
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2012 22:58:16 GMT -5
I'm thinking of training in Wing Chun with some Boxing. I like the Wing Chun dirty moves and blocks with boxing punches and head movement.
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Post by aaronj on Jul 14, 2012 20:17:50 GMT -5
Any martial art will help you with surviving in the 'streets'. The most important thing is and will always be HOW you train what you train. Pick a martial art and give it a go. If you just don't like it, try something else. If you never spar, go somewhere else with a place that has a sparring program.
Be good at one thing first, before you try to overload yourself with too many shallow skill sets.
In a self defense scenario there are no 'dirty' moves, there is only what will help you survive, and what will not.
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Post by odee on Jul 18, 2012 6:48:03 GMT -5
Many Martial Arts are similar on a technical level, the training methods are one of the big seperators, as is the human factor. There's people who need to learn how to fight, people who need to change their personality to learn how to fight and people who are born to bust skulls. Take Ali for example. Someone stole his bike and he was on his way to kill them when a cop pulled him up and got him to vent on the punching bag for a few minutes, a few minutes became a few hours and Ali became one of the greatest Boxers in the world. But the kicker is that Ali already had the right personality - he could have learned community hall Tai Chi and still stomped most Boxers into the ground. I'm not a violent person by nature, I actually started life on the wimp side of the fence, quiet guy, bully victim, bookworm, the works. My personality was rearranged by a Rugby League coach who wanted my bigger body but couldn't recruit me because I was afraid of getting hurt. He had me strapped to one of the uprights and tackled until my blubbering turned to mocking. Years of full contact martial arts have added to that but I'm willing to bet there is still a wimp down there which is why I would lose to Ali even if he'd learned community hall Tai Chi. The human factor is what creates arguments in questions of skills.
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Post by Glutton4Punishment on Jul 18, 2012 15:28:32 GMT -5
Martial Arts suck for "street self defense". In today's society, if somebody attacks you and you fight back, you're in a fight and that's the way law enforcement is likely to look at it as well. When the police show up after a fight, they're either going to see two people that are both pointing their finger at each other saying "HE STARTED IT! I HAD TO DEFEND MYSELF!" or one person standing and the other severely beaten, maimed, and possibly even dead, and the person who won is likely to end up with a charge for excessive force or manslaughter. It's really a lose-lose situation when you use Martial Arts for self defense. Learn how to stay out of trouble, don't be afraid to give up your wallet to stay out of a fight, carry a firearm if you can and if not then carry pepper spray and get really good at running. A Martial Art is meant to teach you how to fight, not how to defend your life.
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Post by odee on Jul 18, 2012 16:06:06 GMT -5
My job description covers me getting involved after the problems start so that kind of covers me for "He started it". Otherwise I carry a can of air horn. I want one that plays Dixie.
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Post by rollingrock128 on Jul 18, 2012 20:49:21 GMT -5
really any martial art taught correctly will do. honestly i would recommend muay thai and bjj. focusing more on the muay thai because all fights stand on the feet and the ground isn't a place you would want to be in a street fight but if it goes there that's where the bjj comes in
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Post by Glutton4Punishment on Jul 18, 2012 23:24:24 GMT -5
You have excellent taste in ass-whoopin' styles, RR.
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Post by kokoro on Jul 19, 2012 6:59:30 GMT -5
its more how you train not what your training in.
many styles are well rounded but the issue comes in many instructors are not.
you need to work towards your advantages and use your disadvantages. understand your self and your limitations.
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Post by ZenGenesis on Jul 23, 2012 12:50:28 GMT -5
Any martial art can protect you on the street. Any martial art is effective too. Lot's of people like to prefer MMA, Muay Thai, Boxing, Kickboxing etc...
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Post by rollingrock128 on Jul 23, 2012 18:40:23 GMT -5
You have excellent taste in ass-whoopin' styles, RR. hey man they work for me.
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Post by odee on Jul 24, 2012 6:04:23 GMT -5
I'm all for combat sports for self defense. People who have learned or at least competed a few times in combat sports tend to possess the right thought process for someone who has just been struck or grabbed. Beat the bastard to a pulp and worry about the courtroom AFTER you've avoided the hospital or the morgue.
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Post by Chef Samurai on Jul 24, 2012 10:25:37 GMT -5
anythings better than nothing the way I see it.
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