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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2013 3:31:03 GMT -5
A lot from Shotokan? None?
Evidence?
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Post by odee on Jan 14, 2013 6:26:56 GMT -5
The first forms in most Taekwando styles and schools are nearly step perfect with the Taiku series from Shotokan. I know kata doesn't MAKE the style but that's a pretty big similarity right there. Taekwando can no more deny their connections with Karate than Karate can deny their own connections with Chinese martial arts or Japanese Jujitsu. I don't know why they'd bother anyway, in my opinion knowing where your style came from is just another rescourse that you can draw from to make yourself a better fighter, denying your style's roots is just counterproductive.
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Post by kokoro on Jan 14, 2013 12:03:39 GMT -5
before they changed all there forms back in the mid 90's. tkd used the pinan series, niahanchi series, passai, kuanku and several other kata from shotokan. they used the older names before they were changed.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2013 18:54:16 GMT -5
what forms did they change to?
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Post by kokoro on Jan 15, 2013 10:08:23 GMT -5
there own i believe. they dropped many of them or at least a few styles did
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Post by odee on Jan 16, 2013 4:27:31 GMT -5
I'd be interested to find out where the Taiku kata came from, were they originally Chinese or were they truly developed in the Okinawan islands? A few people on Yahoo tried to claim that Taekwando was developed by four Judo practitioners, four Jujutsu practitioners, four Chinese martial artists and two Shotokan students, that's very interesting and all but the very noticable lack of throwing practiced by Taekwando students has made it very similar in character to Japanese styled Karate, what happened to the influence of the other styles?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2013 5:50:35 GMT -5
I heard Taekwondo was made from Shotokan Karate and indigenous Korean martial arts
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Post by kokoro on Jan 16, 2013 13:16:41 GMT -5
Taikyoku ? Is that the one you are referring to. Taikyoku shodan, nidan and sandan came from gichin funakoshi. He created them.
Te extent of my knowledge of tkd, is that it was influanced by like you said shotokan and various Korean styles. By a generals who's name escapes me at the moment. I never heard of a judo connection. But shotokan was influnced by judo and has many throws and locks impeded ingot the kata from judo
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Post by odee on Jan 18, 2013 18:28:07 GMT -5
Probably, three years of not reading my karate handbook regularly is starting to show I guess. The Korean style is supposedly Tekkyon/Taekkyon but from what I've seen of that Tekkyon seems to have more in common with dancing or Community Hall Tai Chi, I figure it might be a Capoeria type deal but I've never seen the local guys do more than forms and it's really hard to find any videos of them sparring to guess one way or the other. That is a good point, Judo was a major influence on Shotokan and there aren't many Shotokan practitioners with brag-worthy throwing ability.
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