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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2013 5:11:17 GMT -5
Is Kyokushin Karate a traditional style of Karate?
Is it traditional and self defense focused or is it modern and sport focused?
What makes a style of Karate traditional or modern?
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KyKarateka
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Post by KyKarateka on May 2, 2013 0:13:31 GMT -5
Kyokushin Karate is most often regarded as a traditional martial art.
Traditional martial arts are usually classified as arts with a spiritual or moral aspects to them and not exactly how old they are. Kyokushin does train for sport and competition a lot but depending on where you train you may have more of that self defense aspect to your training.
In my opinion though, if you can hit someone with a technique you learned through martial arts, you can use it to defend yourself.
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Post by odee on May 2, 2013 21:05:09 GMT -5
There are three big Kyokushin organizations and they all do things slightly different. The two International Kyokushin Organisations (IKO) that both call themselves IKO1 tend to be more traditional, though there is a large amount of individuality between schools. Shin Kyokushin is the third organisation and is very open to all new methods of training. As a general rule Kyokushin students train in the traditional "Three K's" method. Kihon - Basics Kata - Forms Kumite - LOTS of hard sparring.
Kyokushin practitioners believe in exposure training, you learn to deal with things by experiencing them.
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Post by Glutton4Punishment on May 4, 2013 0:03:41 GMT -5
I apologize that this comes from a non-Karateka (I want to try Kyokushin someday, though) but I consider it solidly both. For one, I don't consider "Modern" to be even a little bit sport focused. Every "Sport" martial art originates as a traditional art. Muay Thai stretches back 2000 years and even now contains dirty tricks like attacks to the eyes. Judo has a competitive side and a traditional side with attacks to the eyes and other dirty tricks as well. Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu is about as traditional as it gets as well. What makes up something that's also "Modern" is, at least in my opinion, full contact training. It's about HOW a style is trained and not what is being taught. Kyokushin definitely trains full contact, so I'd call it modern. Tradition implies doing things the old school way with Kata and other traditions. It contains that as well, so it's also Traditional.
Not every thing is black or white is all I'm really saying I suppose. It's people who focus on a sport of combat aspect of an art, the art itself doesn't dictate it's own purpose.
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Post by odee on May 4, 2013 5:35:05 GMT -5
I hate the images that seem to come with the terms 'Traditional' and 'Modern' almost to the point of raging about it. I hate the fact that people associate 'Tradition' with bowing and scraping and kata and associate 'Modern' with sport. Pardon the language but that's horse shit. I don't believe in labelling things as traditional and modern then blanketing how they train and I'd personally like to see the practice wiped out, I believe in seperating schools and styles into hard-sparring, remedial and time-wasting. It's more clear cut.
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