KyKarateka
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Post by KyKarateka on May 19, 2013 23:45:27 GMT -5
Hello there, this is my first post I've started so don't go too crazy on me if I did something wrong. Anyways, onto the subject at hand.
When I was in high school, my school had a martial arts club where people would meet usually after school and practice various techniques from various styles with each other, you know to get a grasp of different things. It was supervised by one of the PE teachers who was very interested in martial arts. We'd have a couple guys come in who would just teach various striking and grappling techniques. It was pretty free based so if you wanted to invite someone in to demo then you'd just have to let our teacher supervisor know and the head of the club know and you were good to go.
Through out the years I trained with different people in our school's abandoned mat room (used to be used for wrestling but we discontinued our wrestling team). Every week we'd meet at least twice and practice various techniques learned from some of our regular guest instructors. The school admins knew we were doing this but they never commented or spoke to us about it so we figured we were good.
So I participated in this club throughout my high school years (where I live high school is grade 8 - 12). And now they've decided to start it up again with some new faces. The PE teacher who is still there invited me to run the club with some friends of mine that were also part of it before. We've had two sessions so far and it is going really well, even some people that don't even train in martial arts regularly come in to learn some basic grappling in stuff.
So if you didn't read any of that above that's okay because here is the real question for you. Will schools ever accept martial arts as part of official school organized events? We're kind of in the dark about it, no one really knows about it besides the members themselves. Can martial arts competitions be recognized in schools the same way other sports can such as wrestling?
Thanks for reading all the way through (if you did) - KyK.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2013 14:29:38 GMT -5
Oh now this is a good question and I did read all the way through. I think later in the future, since martial arts is getting more well known every year, schools could accept martial arts as official school organized events if enough people were interested. A good survey that can be issued around school would help it become an official school event too. If both of those catch the attention to the school districts main leaders, that would definitely help. In my school there's these kids who made their own "fight club" and spar/fight each other whenever the people have free time after school but I wouldn't consider that a school event. I honestly think it's stupid that they made that too. But back on topic, in order for that to happen, they would need certified teachers of martial arts to run the program too. In Portugal, we had a school martial arts program VERY similar to this where the main instructor was a Boxing coach and every Tuesday and Thursday after school he would train the people who were part of the program in Boxing and sometimes he would have friends of his come on and also teach Muay Thai and Judo techniques as well as Boxing techniques. I never got to learn Judo and Muay Thai but I got the chance to learn some Boxing before I moved to America very shortly. Anyways if people can get the idea of that to the higher ups, it can be considered. Sorry for my English, I don't know English perfectly and need help with an online translator. -_-
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2013 18:25:30 GMT -5
As far as I know, in Japan martial arts are recongised as official school sports. Especially Judo, Karate and Kendo
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Post by Keyboard Warrior on May 20, 2013 19:38:42 GMT -5
I'm surprised yours accepted and allowed a martial arts program to be run in the school. Martial arts are everything that schools try to avoid and distance themselves from, for many reasons. One obvious reason is liability. Your school doesn't have the kind of liability insurance gyms/dojos have, what happens when someone gets hurt? Another is that it promotes fighting, and encourages students to fight back if they ever get into a situation at school.
I don't see schools ever really accepting martial arts into their curriculum or as part of after school programs. While I would like to see more and more of it happen, I doubt it will, and I guess I don't blame them.
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KyKarateka
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Post by KyKarateka on May 20, 2013 20:25:13 GMT -5
Mainly because we had a teacher supervisor and it was not during school time. Other than that I don't think we would be allowed. It was not related to the school in anyway, we were just mainly using the facility with people that went to the school.
The members of the club are all responsible in my eyes so I trust them to act responsibly and not misuse things learned. Most of them are martial artists already so they should understand the concept.
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Post by odee on May 21, 2013 18:35:51 GMT -5
Usually when a school accepts a martial art it's a horrible non-contact joke of a thing being taught by some dim-witted dreamer who believes you can learn to fight without picking up so much as a bruise.
Boxing has recognised leagues in almost every country but very few schools have Boxing as a registered sport for just the reasons Ze Fuhrer pointed out. Full-contact martial arts are everything schools don't want.
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Post by KyKarateka on May 22, 2013 0:01:26 GMT -5
I think martial arts in general give people the idea that it promotes fighting when in fact it is the opposite. Martial arts don't advocate fighting, people advocate fighting. More people are understanding of this idea at the school which is probably why this is working out nicely at the moment.
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Post by odee on May 22, 2013 7:01:58 GMT -5
I think the grappling side would be the first to be truly accepted. Grapplers tend to look less bruised at the end of their training sessions, mind you, couliflower ear is pretty offensive.
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Post by KyKarateka on May 22, 2013 19:06:11 GMT -5
Grappling in a way could be viewed the same way as wrestling currently is but as stated, there is probably little chance that martial arts will be fully accepted into schools.
Possibly if people better educated about the risks of striking and safety measures to prevent them. Also, if MMA gets more popular in years to come, we could see more pressure to incorporate martial arts into schools.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2013 23:32:42 GMT -5
wrestling is a martial art and in schools. thought i'd just state that though its clear to Americans but less to us not in the US of A.
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Post by Keyboard Warrior on May 23, 2013 3:11:40 GMT -5
Mainly because we had a teacher supervisor and it was not during school time. Other than that I don't think we would be allowed. It was not related to the school in anyway, we were just mainly using the facility with people that went to the school. The members of the club are all responsible in my eyes so I trust them to act responsibly and not misuse things learned. Most of them are martial artists already so they should understand the concept. But the school can still be held liable if one of you guys gets hurt. Its their facility. I'm not trying to discourage you at all from using the schools facilities. In fact power to you, if they'll let you. The only reason I say is because I'm surprised they let you.
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Post by KyKarateka on May 23, 2013 17:58:17 GMT -5
Yeah that is a good point, I'll ask the supervisor about it to see what his thoughts on it. Waivers might be a good idea to get signed.
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