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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2013 0:14:24 GMT -5
I have always thought of Sanshou as Chinese Kickboxing and Sanshou as referred to the ruleset in sparring but now i'm reading up on it and people are saying it's not a style itself and it is JUST the ruleset in sparring. So is Sanshou an actual martial art or no?
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2013 6:05:50 GMT -5
Yes and No.
Ok. Yes as it has been made into a military and civilian self defense martial art based on traditional Kung Fu techniques.
No as it is the free form or free fighting for the traditional Kung Fu styles. Traditional Chinese martial arts are based on two things, talou which are forms (like katas in Karate) and Sanshou which is the free fighting or sparring. Today for various reasons, Talou (forms) are the most practiced and seen. This led to Sanshou being under taught. I trained in Jow Gar Kung Fu and we did both forms and Sanshou. The Sanshou was the free fighting of what we did in the forms. It looks like the sporting Sanshou you see in MMA and t.v
No, as it is also a sport. It is a rule set for what is basically Chinese kickboxing which looks like Muay Thai with throws and wrestling.
As you can see, it is not traditionally a style of Kung Fu but an aspect of Kung Fu training like Kumite in Karate. But it is also now a modern sport like Muay Thai and self defence martial art like Krav Maga.
Good question but as you can see it's complex:)
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2013 7:49:51 GMT -5
I already understood all that part but I was just wondering if it was an actual martial art itself like Karate, TKD, etc. You said "It is a rule set for what is basically Chinese kickboxing" so Chinese kickboxing is an actual martial art/combat sport?
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2013 0:59:11 GMT -5
If you understood then I don't understand what your question is. It is an actual combat sport and modern martial art like kickboxing, Judo and BJJ. It is ALSO an element in traditional Chinese martial arts training. It is the free fighting like 'Kumite' is in Karate. Tai Chi, Win Chun, Northern Shaolin etc do Sanshou and Talou (forms) like Karate does Kumite and Kata. The confusion comes from the fact that 'Sanshou' means 'free hand' and the other term 'Sanda' means 'free fighting' in Mandarin. But yes it is now an actual combat sport. For further information read this link- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanshou
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2013 17:46:39 GMT -5
It's my English skills that is confusing me sorry. I have to use Google Translate sometimes whenever I talk to people on here as my English isn't very fluent. I was just wondering if it was an actual martial art now and not just a component and rule set and you did answer my question. Thanks for clearing it up for me Frasier.
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Post by odee on May 31, 2013 20:23:03 GMT -5
One of the biggest problems with martial arts comes through cinema. Common knowledge isn't always overly correct.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2013 22:36:05 GMT -5
No worries Solidão. I am currently learning Mandarin and I get things wrong often. That leads to people not getting what I mean. I totally understand.
Learning a second language is very hard:)
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2013 22:48:11 GMT -5
I tried learning Mandarin and it was very hard so I gave up haha. English is easy to learn but it's the meanings that confuse me. Like red and read. Spelled differently and they both mean a certain thing but it's pronounced the same way. VERY confusing.
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