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Post by jwbulldogs on Jun 22, 2012 2:18:26 GMT -5
How do you measure that you are sparring at 50, 60 o 70%?
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Post by peppermillk on Jun 23, 2012 22:22:38 GMT -5
U just have to feel it out. No way could u actually measure it properly unless u had sum scientific machine hooked up to u. When u think ur doing 50 u might rly be doing 30 its guess work it rly doesn't matter what percent ur at as long as u and ur sparring partner our about equalwp with one another
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Post by Chef Samurai on Jun 23, 2012 22:30:09 GMT -5
Depending on who I'm sparring and the rules & purpose of the session.
If I'm sparring someone full contact someone just like in a competition and I know they are better than me I will have to go better than if I'm points sparring a rookie and correcting mistakes.
And as stated above it's impossible to tell 100% without some scientific equipment.
When I'm trying to actually get shots in and throws and whatever the rules are and victory conditions are I try as hard as I can but trying and doing are two different things and I'm not always at peak performance from my experience.
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Post by drunior on Jun 28, 2012 9:21:41 GMT -5
In Judo, it's pretty easy to tone yourself down. Describing it in percentage is just a rough guess to give a more visual description of how much you are exerting yourself.
If I were saying I'm going anywhere below 50%, I would get a firm grip on the opponent, but go over if they come in for a technique and I feel they are using some degree of kuzushi in their technique. At around 50%, I would resist a bit that I will not go over with a slow and sloppy attack. If I see they used good setup, I will let them have the throw. 75% area is where I will attack a bit more frequently and do some light grip fighting. This is where the opponent will have to work for the throw, but I will not resist to the fullest extent. If I'm going over, I'm going over.
During practice against people of same skills, I would describe it as 90%. It is similar to a tournament setting, where we would be going full strength in that we are resisting throws. We will not do certain things that are detrimental to the actual Judo training, such as severe grip fighting or extremely defensive postures. Both side tries to stay as upright and active as possible.
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Post by jwbulldogs on Jun 28, 2012 13:52:33 GMT -5
I asked this question since I have often seen people discussing that you go 40% or 50% or 75% in sparring. You have someone that will post my training partner is going too hard. The response says since you are a beginner and they are advanced they should only resist at this percentage. But no one can definitively say or gauge how do we measure those percentages. Where does the idea of percentages come from in sparring?
I know guys that are training others for mma. They do so by just beating the beginner over and over. Sure they are not going all out, but they seem to get a kick out of how many different ways they can beat a guy that don't know anything. No they can't pass the guard if they have been taught. If I question them they will say this is how I was taught. I got my butt kicked everyday until I learned. Is that the best method? I don't think so.
When I was about 4 my dad taught me to play chess. He walk me through the game and in the process he let me win that game. Afterwards to win I had to earn it. We played many times after. He would guide me but he allowed me to make my own choices. He often question me and taught me yo question why I made certain moves. What am I trying to accomplish and what would my opponent do if I did that. He taught me why I don't want to do certain things. I had to learn to think 2 or 3 or more moves ahead. I had to learn how to control my opponents next move. It was many years later before I ever beat him again. As a kid I'd beat all of his friends. They would even set me up to play some of their friends and family. No one expected for this little kid to beat an adult that has been playing for years. But I had a good teacher who taught me. He took me through the progression. He didn't just beat me and say you figure it out.
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