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Post by wolsky on Sept 9, 2013 1:25:19 GMT -5
Hey everybody, new here and hoping these forums are active. I've always had a problem with punching, maybe because I over think it too much or lack confidence with my punches but... How do you exactly do one? By that I mean what do you do with your shoulder how do you know it's straight and aligned how would I turn my hips etc... And as you can see I might think about if to much which could also be a problem with my punches but, any help is appreciated. Thanks.
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Post by Keyboard Warrior on Sept 9, 2013 2:26:10 GMT -5
Hi Wolsky, good to meet you. Yes these forums are regularly active. As for your question, I would start out in a normal fighting stance. If your right handed, and feel fine fighting orthodox, then start with your left foot leading, and right foot in the back. The opposite if you're a south paw. Here's a pic of two very different styled fighters. The fighter on the left is Lyoto Machida, a southpaw, shotokan fighter. On the right is Shogun Rua, an orthodox, Muay Thai fighter. You can choose to mimic either stance for the time being. Notice that the back foot is facing outwards on both stances, and the lead foot is facing forwards. Your standard punch occurs off the back hand. Ball up your fist, and your thumb should be on the outside. If you punch with the thumb inside, you will break your thumb. As you extend your arm, your hips rotate outwards, as well as your shoulders. Your shoulders are rotating about a quarter of what your hips are doing. Then rotate your fist into a horizontal position as you extend out. I am not a striker, so my info may not be as good, or it could be better explained by some of the other members here. But thats how I know it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2013 4:32:23 GMT -5
Where do you suggest you connect with the fist? First two knuckles or all the knuckles? I prefer the first two knuckles but Jack Dempsey said all the knuckles
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Post by odee on Sept 9, 2013 6:33:19 GMT -5
Jack Dempsey fought with gloves. Not to take anything away from the Manassa Mauler but there's a big difference when you fight with gloves - your knuckles aren't in any real danger from busting on impact, same all the way back through your hand to your wrist and because of that people are inclined to hit with a lot more power. Using the two big knuckles keeps your hand safe without gloves but it also cocks your wrist slightly to the side to present those big knuckles as the first point of impact, when you use a lot more power like in a gloved boxing punch that cocking unlines your wrist and endangers it, so you keep it lined and hit with all four knuckles instead.
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Post by KyKarateka on Sept 9, 2013 20:13:32 GMT -5
I always try to focus on the first two especially when I'm not wearing gloves because you can really feel the impact more if you get hit by the first two. With gloves on it's more like the first three it feels like.
I've had my fair amount of wrist injuries contacting wrong while hitting with the first two knuckles.
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Post by odee on Sept 10, 2013 17:26:33 GMT -5
I struggled with the Boxing practice in Muay Thai and that was the reason my Muay Thai coach gave me. Haven't had a wrist issue since I started connecting with all four rather than just the two.
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Post by KyKarateka on Sept 10, 2013 18:10:34 GMT -5
In my opinion, when you hit with the first two knuckles it really focuses the force into a smaller area in a way causing more damage to your opponent. For example, if you get hit in the solar plexus with the first two knuckles versus all four there will probably be a noticeable difference.
But when you hit with all four you can avoid some of those wrist injuries and it's also pretty awkward to try to hit with first two knuckles wearing gloves.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2013 21:55:43 GMT -5
What do you think about the punches in Wing Chun? Are they closer to the punches in bareknuckle boxing than todays boxing?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2013 5:07:36 GMT -5
Are the punches in Wing Chun got any power to them? Chain punches seem good until momentum stops
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Post by Chino on Sept 16, 2013 13:05:32 GMT -5
At my gym they taught the regular boxing way to punch. But my coach had told me he wanted me to actually keep twisting my fist until my thumb is down because it actually gets through a guard. I can confirm this because he has got through my guard this way and it worked pretty much everytime for him lol
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Post by odee on Sept 16, 2013 16:52:57 GMT -5
Frasier. Chain punches are a good idea when the person you're fighting with has never dealt with them before, the biggest advantage they have is that most people try to avoid getting hit by blocking them and all they accomplish is tangling their hands and allowing the chain puncher to bridge in close and start striking their torso. From the guys I've sparred against and what I've tried of it very few people can actually put a decent amount of power into chain punches and rushing them into a clinch will often trap both their hands between both your bodies.
Chino. Putting a bit of extra twist on a sweaty glove might be able to squeeze it through a slightly open defense but if you close your guard completely and he's still managing you're going to have to do some extra training to hold your guard solid.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2013 22:00:49 GMT -5
How do punches and the dynamics of them change across martial arts?
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Post by odee on Oct 3, 2013 14:45:21 GMT -5
They change by belief and preference more than anything else. Then you get other schools that try to teach everything.
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Post by KyKarateka on Oct 3, 2013 20:20:06 GMT -5
It varies a lot with different styles I find. It could be as little as different hand positioning or turning a different way.
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