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Post by Johnnie on Jul 3, 2012 16:55:11 GMT -5
Personally mine is the scissor sweep from guard. Whenever I get taken down most guys plant there hands on the side to lessen their own fall or to posture back up. I always go for a fake kimura attempt on their left arm, and when they use their right arm to pull their left arm out I quickly arm drag the right arm and scissor sweep them to the left. It hardly ever fails me and gives me enough leverage to knock the air out of them haha. I also like my high-c takedown. Most BJJ guys never see it coming. Of course it's near impossible for me with the Gi on. Anyways, what's your favorite go to move? I'd be honored to see the variation of technique on here. I'm trying to find things I could try out in my BJJ game.
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Post by Keyboard Warrior on Jul 4, 2012 8:24:27 GMT -5
Scissor sweep is one of my favorite sweeps. I don't necessarily have a "go-to" move per say. I have "moves of the week" in my head, which are essentially moves that I get obsessed with and imagine practicing on everyone, and work alot during practice.
Instead of moves, I have gameplans. I'm pretty comfortable on my back, and work alot of open guard stuff. I haven't used a closed guard in forever, and probably won't for a while. Anyways, I work open guard, and focus on sweeps. Just like what you did to that wrestler, the Tawara Gaeshi move, I work very similar things into my game where I'm constantly looking to just roll people over. From there I just try and get mount, and submit.
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Post by The Last Airbender on Jul 4, 2012 10:36:39 GMT -5
i like the Butterfly Guard cause it's very versatile. lot of sweeps and transitions into things like X Guard, Full Guard, Monkey Guard, etc. i'm a Judo guy so being on top is what i favor, for things like pins, self-defense, and what have you, so i really rely on sweeping my opponent and the Butterfly position really helps that.
also, when grappling with a newbie or an unskilled person in general (especially heavyweights) the butterfly guard keeps them off balance and they feel very uncomfortable with your legs in between theirs by the groin so they usually try to stand up opening dozens of sweeps and ways to take the back from there.
moreover, when in a fistfight, the attacker usually wants to club you with fists so the best guard in my opinion is one that keeps him off balance and unable to swing down at you with out being swept which is the Butterfly Guard.
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Post by Johnnie on Jul 4, 2012 11:29:50 GMT -5
Monkey guard? Whoah never heard of that one haha. My too personal favorite guards to use are butterfly guard and rubber guard, I'm really successful with triangles, gogoplatas, and omoplatas from rubber guard. De La Riva guard is also pretty good with me, I almost always get a sweep/knee bar. I'm still a newbie though! You're a judo guy? Hm.. Is there any way to counter judo throws? I used to counter one fat dude when I first started by taking his back, but that was because he was so slow. One of my favorite people to roll with is a wrestler, I'm always staying low when it comes to him. The thing is he tries pushing me down, making me pop up and stand straight, then instantly before I even know it I'm face up on the Matt with the air knocked out of me caught in an Armbar haha.
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Post by The Last Airbender on Jul 4, 2012 11:51:34 GMT -5
well Judo throws come in a variety of ways but i assume you mean forward hip throws. you have to have good hips in Judo. if a guy comes in to hip throw you a simple thrust forward, as gay as it sounds, into his hip with your pelvis will stifle most attempts. for others you can jump around and be in front of him and be in terrific position for a hip throw of your own.
also, if you get low by bending at the knees (not the waist or back!) just as he comes in and use his momentum to lift you can slam him with what we cal Ushiro Goshi
that's the general answer. other than that, i'd have to know specifically which throws you get thrown by to help further.
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Post by Johnnie on Jul 4, 2012 12:20:04 GMT -5
The throw he gets me in is a common one I see but I don't know the name of it. It's where he grabs your arm by the wrist and hooks your tricep with his other arm and uses your arm to flip you over. It's your typical cliché Judo throw you see in movies and games such as Dead Rising haha. I seriously wish I could commit judo throws, but I'm too nervous to commit them against someone who's resisting. Don't wanna hurt the poor bastard that has the luck of rolling with me.  |
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Post by The Last Airbender on Jul 4, 2012 12:41:07 GMT -5
ah you must mean Seoi Nage. there's in general, two types of this throw in no-gi Drop Seoi Nage and Ippon Seoi Nage Ippon  Drop  simple defense to the standing one or Ippon Seoinage. the hip thrust i mentioned earlier will work. lean back a little with your shoulders and shove your pelvis into his hips. for the drop version, take a look at this video. in Judo practice we do cartwheels as warm ups, this is essentially why. |
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Post by drunior on Jul 4, 2012 12:44:49 GMT -5
You just described my main throw from the right handed stance lol. It's called Ippon-Seoinage, and the hook is placed firm and tightly in the opponents armpit. Hooking on the tricep gives them too much room to walk out of the throw, and having their arm over your shoulder would leave you open for a rear naked choke. Standing go-to move that I also use as part of my tokui-waza (specialty technique) is Tai-otoshi (left handed), Sode Tsurikomi Goshi, and Kouchi-gari. I also use a lot of foot sweeps, but they're mostly to set up for the big throws. No-gi standing techniques that I go for is harai makkikomi, ouchi-gari/kouchi-gari, tsurikomi ashi, koshi guruma or o-goshi, and osoto gari. (You can kind of tell I'm a pretty short guy) My go-to for ground is also scissor sweep, but rarely used in Judo tournaments due to the nature of the said tournaments. From a transition from standing to ground phase, if the opponent fell on his knee while avoiding a technique, my go-to technique is Jigoku Jime (Hell's Cradle). Ude Garami and Gyaku Ude Garami (BJJ practitioners seem to call this Keylock and Kimura respectively) is also my favorite arm lock technique. Edit to add a response without double post: This is correct, but also addresses the main teaching of Judo and kuzushi. An opponent that anticipates a seoi nage by leaning back and "hip checking", leaves himself open for another technique that is often taught together with Seoinage for this very reason. It is Kouchi-gari and Kouchi-makkikomi. The first half of the Seoinage entry is same as the entry for a kouchi-gari. The only difference is that if you were to commit to a Seoinage, you would turn your whole body to face the direction of the opponent so you can throw them over your shoulder. If the opponent is leaning back, you would instead continuing moving forward and placing your forward leg between the opponent's and hooking one of their leg (for seoi case, it's the leg that you are facing) and continue the motion. Combined with the opponent leaning back, and you pushing them, you will send them to the ground hard. Example here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4s1lw3WdcAKoga Toshihiko literally steamrolls on his opponent with it during one of his fights at the Barcelona Olympic. Koga knew the opponent was anticipating a Seoinage, so shoots straight for a Kouchi-makkikomi. It's at 3:50 www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6i3WaVNpGMSorry for long post. Judo tends to get me going. |
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Post by Johnnie on Jul 4, 2012 13:48:38 GMT -5
Holy shit thank you guys! I'll try this next time I have the honor of rolling with him. Most likely tomorrow since today is the fourth of july. Seriously I thought once he has your wrist locked up with your tricep you're pretty much screwed from there lol. Either way, thank you again! Hell, I might even try a judo throw on someone tomorrow haha.
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Post by The Last Airbender on Jul 4, 2012 15:00:53 GMT -5
very true. but i was going on the assumption that johnnie would have a plan to implement immediately after he stuffs the throw and that it would be too much info all in one setting so i neglected to mention it. my Tokui Waza standing, which i neglected to mention earlier, is O Soto Gari and Ashi Guruma in combo. i also love sweeps like Ko Uchi Gari, and Ko Soto Gari, and De Ashi Harai. but i also like to use standing Kimuras, Waki Gatame, and wrist locks  |
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