aaronj
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Post by aaronj on Aug 27, 2012 21:08:19 GMT -5
There are a few posts that I've seen where people have stated that they will train and spar with various techniques, but when duking it out with somebody in the 'streets' they will keep it simple, or use only one or two techniques.
My question is then; Why on Earth would you waste your time training something that you won't use, or that doesn't work "in reality"?
... After posting this, it is a bit ambiguous as to what category it should reside in, so feel free to move it, if you think it'll get a better response elsewhere.
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odee
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Post by odee on Aug 27, 2012 23:29:23 GMT -5
You're right, it could reside in self defense concepts but in my opinion it also sits fine here since it is a question of training methodology. Depends on the technique in question. Sometimes you train techniques because they're as close as possible to what you would use out in the streets without breaking your training partner, a good example is the Thai style roundhouse kick. In competitions and sparring the kick is targeted at the thigh muscles and the nerve clusters just above the knee but the most practical method of fighting with it is destroying the knee joint from the side. Other techniques can be taken further in a self defense situation, if you're up against two or more people an MMA style arm bar doesn't seem like a particularly smart move but it actually takes more time, strength and control to hold an arm-bar in it's most painful position than it does to just snap the elbow joint using the arm-bar dynamics and be done with it. Control techniques are another group that have ifs and buts around them. If you have the ability to apply control techniques you can end most fights with little or no injury to anyone but a lot of factors revolve around those techniques. If the aggressor has similar, equal or greater ability than you possess control techniques are quite useless. Striking techniques have their ups and downs too, a person bashing people about is likely to aggrivate a situation quite a bit before being able to quell it, there's something about watching a striker that just get's people's blood up, a striker has to put their aggressor down in such a way that nobody wants to mess with them before they can start calming a situation. A grappler on the other hand has sacrificed his mobility to get the lock but then has what my Muay Thai coach refers to as 'Train Wreck syndrome' people tend to stop and watch a person being choked out with the same fascination that folks have when we see a crash or an animal killing another animal, if someone breaks that trance before the grappler is finished he might be in trouble. All techniques work but there are factors that determine it's usefulness in any particular situation, Keep It Simple Stupid or Keep It Simple and Savage are good guidelines but what is simple is relative to the person using it, there are people who find punching and kicking difficult and there are people who find taking down a gang of thugs simple. In spite of knowing things will get worse before they get better striking is simpler to me than grappling is so I'd use that in a fight, but I still practice grappling with the hopes that one day I'll have an equal choice between the two.
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