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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2013 1:54:43 GMT -5
McDojos will die out if people had to train HARD....simple
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Post by odee on May 15, 2013 20:05:15 GMT -5
That's just the problem Frasier. McDojos exist because they offer the easy (in spite of being fake) route. In a McDojo people don't have to train hard to get what they want because what they want is a dream not a reality, as long as people don't know that you can't learn to fight without getting hurt McDojos can continue to exist.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2013 3:51:26 GMT -5
I agree Odee....it's sad.
If you don't train hard than MA's are just dancing.
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Post by KyKarateka on May 20, 2013 17:40:34 GMT -5
In the defense of my dancer friends, dancing can be quite physically demanding To be successful in anything it is a given that you have to work hard. To get a well paying job you have to study hard, to get skilled at a sport you have to practice, it applies to everything. In relation to the original post: I was told that Karate was derived from Chinese Kenpo during Chinese occupation of Okinawa. This eventually branched off into various styles of Okinawan Karate. I haven't heard anything about White Crane influencing Karate?
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Post by odee on May 21, 2013 18:48:33 GMT -5
Chinese Kenpo is an umbrella term, it covers all the same arts as Kung Fu.
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Post by KyKarateka on May 21, 2013 21:15:32 GMT -5
Chinese Kenpo is an umbrella term, it covers all the same arts as Kung Fu. Alright thanks but Kung Fu is also an umbrella term for all Chinese martial arts so would Chinese Kenpo and Kung fu be interchangeable?
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Post by odee on May 21, 2013 22:50:53 GMT -5
Yes but Kenpo is the more proper term. Kung Fu actually means 'skill gained through hard work' but it is the more commonly used term to describe Chinese martial arts.
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Post by KyKarateka on May 21, 2013 23:54:43 GMT -5
Alright thanks odee. I'll be sure to keep this in mind, specifically White Crane was believed to influence Okinawan martial arts? Are there any others you know of?
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Post by odee on May 22, 2013 7:17:41 GMT -5
Eighteen Hands Kenpo, Tai Chi, Shaolin Long-fist, Shaolin Tiger and many more. You have to remember Karate wasn't created by one person it was created by many people as seperate styles in different regions, if memory serves there were four main regions in Okinawa and each had their own style with it's own character and emphasis. Karate is an umbrella term just like Kung Fu and Kenpo.
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Post by KyKarateka on May 22, 2013 19:13:19 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm aware of the multiple karate masters. The thing is that Kung Fu or Gung Fu directly translate to "work" in Chinese and Karate translates to "empty hand". For almost all Chinese arts there are known as Kung Fu whilst Japanese arts not all Karate such as Jujitsu and Aikido.
This is probably due to differentiation in origin (Okinawa and Japan respectively). Kung Fu is an umbrella term for all arts in China while Karate is umbrella for Okinawan arts specifically.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2013 23:30:43 GMT -5
I was told that in China, their martial arts are known more as Wushu. Kung Fu or Gung Fu is more commonly used in the south especially in the Cantonese speaking areas. Outside of China tends to use Kung Fu but the Chinese have always preferred the term Wushu.
Karate is an umbella term for the Okinawan arts that are derived from Tode and Naha-Te, Shuri-Te and Tomika-te. It measn empty hand today but originally meant China hand, the characters were changed. The Japanese sometimes use the term Budo (it has an traditional and modern term for when they were created, e.g Jujutsu and Judo) to refer to their martial arts. And Kung Fu/Wushu is the Chinese umbrella term. I think Kenpo is too but not as common.
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