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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2013 18:36:19 GMT -5
I don't know if this is the right board to post on but anyways I've been looking at some people here and at their posts and I have a feeling there are some fake martial artists here. If you're a fake, you might as well say it. Does anyone else get this feeling? Sorry for my poor English, only have been in USA for 2 years.
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Post by odee on May 15, 2013 19:18:27 GMT -5
Is this coming from that guy on Yahoo Answers? It was a neat, game question but I think Keyboard Warrior had the right of it, just decide for yourself if people are worth taking notice of or not. My father is a mechanic, not a martial artist and I still take a lot of advice from him, he sees people's bodies in a mechanical sense and his advice is sound. I guess what I'm saying is it doesn't matter if someone is a martial artist or not, there is no best answer to worry about someone taking bad advice as the bible, plus if you disagree you're free to debate the point as long as you wish. This is a place of discussion and opinion as much as a place to pick up advice. If someone is faking their training it will eventually show and people will just stop listening to them.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2013 19:25:16 GMT -5
No this has nothing to do with Yahoo. I know what you mean but when people say they train in X for Y years and it's all a lie then they don't know what they're talking about when they post. They can say that stuff here but in real life, they don't do anything. I have an idea of potential fakes on here but i'm not gonna point anyone out. I hope people understand where i'm coming from.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2013 19:26:10 GMT -5
I'm curious about the Yahoo post you mentioned. Can you provide a link?
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Post by odee on May 15, 2013 19:49:17 GMT -5
If it's still up.
You might have to ask Keyboard Warrior. I can't find it but he should be able to since he answered it.
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Post by Keyboard Warrior on May 15, 2013 21:42:09 GMT -5
I know which question it is, and I believe it was deleted. As for any fakes being here on the forum, theres no way to honestly know. I spend alot of my time on the computer, but I also make time to train and I train pretty regularly. I am curious though as to whom you consider fakes. Feel free to post them up here. On any other section I'd say no, but this is the warzone, so feel free to call some people out, and lets see if they respond.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2013 22:04:21 GMT -5
If i'm not sleeping or going to school, i'm training. I'm not fake. I was looking at peoples posts, and i'm not trying to call people out, but I have a feeling that ZenGenesis person is a fake. He contradicts himself in his posts and has he really done Baguazhang, Wing Chun, JKD and JFJKD? It's obvious he's lying. I'm starting to think Fraiser could be a fake too. He's started so many threads on here asking questions about martial arts, then does them, then asks a question about another one and then does that martial art. Either he's lying or he really can't pick a martial art. It's like it's hard for him. Again, i'm not calling them out and i'm basing this off threads and posts that they have done. There's probably more fakes on here too but we'll just have to see.
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Post by Keyboard Warrior on May 16, 2013 0:40:06 GMT -5
Me and Frasier have had our, issues lets just say. I can't attest to his training anymore than I can anyone else around here, other than Glutton's, whom I'm friends with in real life, and his training is questionable at best Anyways, I don't even know if Zen is still around but I know Frasier is and I'm sure he'll see this, but I'll let Frasier and Zen fight their own battles. However I think the percentage of fakes on here is quite lower than you'll find on YA! You have to care about martial arts quite a bit to want to register for this forum. On YA! anyone can make a profile, and in one minute answer a question in the makeup section, then in the martial arts section.
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Post by odee on May 16, 2013 2:27:05 GMT -5
Ze Fuhrer shows no favorites. He rubbishes all our training equally.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2013 4:13:13 GMT -5
xBaji....LOL how do we know that your not a FAKE?
As for your thoughts on my posts, here is my reply
1. I ask questions to get this site moving. You are unaware that for a while we had few members contributing so I took it upon myself to ask questions that I thought people might like and discuss.
2. I asked questions about martial arts that I am interested in LEARNING about. I wanted to see peoples thoughts and experiences in arts like Aikido. I don't train in them. I'm just curious about them.
3. I have trained in Boxing on and off for close to 10 years. In that time I have also done Wing Chun. I have only recently started Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. I've dabbled in others and I don't hide that. But Boxing is my art and hopefully BJJ too. Though atm I'm shit at BJJ.
In the future I'm not going to try to get threads moving by asking questions I think people might wish to discuss. That way newcomers like you don't think you can question my integrity on here.
At this moment, I have a feeling that you could be a fake or troll. I've seen the similarities that you have shown on here before such as just joining a site and asking heaps of questions. Then acting like your not only an expert but also one of the websites 'main men'. A lot of fakes and trolls do that.
And its very easy to say you study a rare or not commonly known martial art. It's hard for us to verify what you say. A certain troll on Yahoo Answers does that too.
In the future don't call me out on here. This is the Warzone yes, but I feel that it should be a place for two people to discuss/argue who want to. I don't want to and I never said I would. So please be respectful and show respect.
NOTE- I have written the above only as a response and I in no way condone this thread or my unwilling participation in it. If you have issues with me than PM me.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2013 4:13:49 GMT -5
It's the nature of the Internet that we really cannot verify anyone on here. For all I know any of us can be fakes and trolls. Even Keyboard Warrior:P though he sounds legit LOL
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Post by Keyboard Warrior on May 16, 2013 4:44:53 GMT -5
While I don't think people should be subject of ridicule and being called out on here, to be fair I did ask xBaji whom he thought were fakes on here, and he answered. And while I don't really condone it, it goes against the spirit of the Warzone to try and moderate and stop it.
While xBaji calling people fakes on here wasn't totally necessary, I believe he was respectful about it. He didn't call anyone names and he didn't resort to any foul language. Frasier use this as an opportunity to defend yourself, and as a moment of reflection. If you don't believe theres any validity to what xBaji says, then theres nothing to reflect upon. If you feel that there maybe some validity, then work on changing it.
But just to be clear, I will only tolerate this in the Warzone and xBaji made sure to post here, as he should have. This won't be tolerated anywhere else on the forum though. Theres a time and place to be disrespectful and the warzone is that only place.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2013 5:01:33 GMT -5
I feel that xBaji has called me out and put some ridicule my way. While I respect that you think he was respectful, I feel that he wasn't. If he was respectful he would have maintained his stance and not named names. But he did and I feel by that action that it was his intention from the start. I'm furious. I've worked hard for this site and he thinks he can say I might be a fake after he is on here for 5 minutes! No respect. To show that I am not a fake I will tell you where I train. I train Boxing at the St George PCYC in the Tszyu Boxing Academy and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu at Roots Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Bexley dojo. www.pcycnsw.org/club_stgeorge_actwww.brazilianjiujitsu.com.au/Bexley-Dojo.aspxI've competed in the New South Wales Golden Gloves amateur boxing competitions and in white belt Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu comps (got owned LOL). I want an apology and for him to delete his post naming me. The Warzone is for people who want to discuss and argue. I didn't and don't. It's not a place to bad mouth people for no reason. If he wants to further discuss my training then he can private message me. And it would be nice for him to say why he isn't a fake.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2013 5:05:16 GMT -5
"Theres a time and place to be disrespectful and the warzone is that only place."
Yes I agree, but only if you want to be on here. I don't come to the warzone as I have no wish to be apart of it. But I heard he named me so I came here to see. If he deletes that post than I will delete mine and all will be good between us.
I have no problem with the warzone, I understand why its here and people like it. I don't and don't want to be apart of it. Please respect my wishes.
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Post by odee on May 16, 2013 5:10:13 GMT -5
Witch-hunts were what got Bullshido to it's current levels of membership but its also become a stagnant place where you can't question somebody without enough proof to verify their credentials for yourself anyway. I think we should throw the question up for a mod discussion before we decide if witch-hunting will be our 'thing'.
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