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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2013 23:51:42 GMT -5
Are the leg sweeps and trips that Lyoto Machida uses so successfully from Shotokan Karate or his Sumo training?
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Post by odee on Aug 3, 2013 8:32:48 GMT -5
I've never seen Sumo Wrestlers sweep the legs but I've only ever seen olympic sumo so it's entirely possible that I have no idea what they're taught. In the end though, who cares? If he did learn those sweeps doing sumo it's sweeping bigger competitors that made them so effective. The actual technique he uses is exactly the same as a Shotokan sweep anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2013 21:28:14 GMT -5
From Shotokan. Ok no worries, I was just interested in which of the two the sweeps are from. I think they are great. And they are very similar to the leg sweeps in Judo so I think that proves your other post about Judo influencing Shotokan.
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Post by odee on Aug 4, 2013 6:26:30 GMT -5
What proves my point about Shotokan having Judo influences is Kano and Funakoshi sharing a dojo and attending each other's classes.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2013 20:18:26 GMT -5
Yeah ok. I just felt it is also interesting how close the leg sweeps are in Judo and Shotokan. I didn't mean anything by it.
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Post by KyKarateka on Aug 4, 2013 23:54:23 GMT -5
I haven't watched very much Sumo but when I did I didn't see any leg sweeps do I assume they would be from his Shotokan training.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2013 0:12:27 GMT -5
I didn't think Sumo did but Joe Rogan said it in his last fight
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Post by KyKarateka on Aug 5, 2013 19:29:18 GMT -5
I should probably watch more Sumo then ...
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Post by odee on Aug 5, 2013 19:35:30 GMT -5
I didn't mean that as a jab it's just an interesting bit of trivia, Funakoshi and Kano trained together so similarities are bound to occur.
On the subject of technique I find the minor differences largely irrelevant in comparison to how the technique is actually learned and applied. If Lyoto practiced those sweeps on big, fat sumo kids when he was younger and bigger, fatter sumo guys as he got older it stands to reason he'd have damn good sweeps, what style the technique actually comes from is largely unimportant.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2013 3:02:03 GMT -5
Ok, I was interested if Joe Rogan was correct. I'd never seen that in Sumo but did train it in Judo and see it in Shotokan
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2013 3:02:33 GMT -5
Pity Phil Davis won, I was looking forward to Machida vs Jones 2
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