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Post by cw6jess on Jul 11, 2012 1:58:03 GMT -5
My question is, how often do you use kicks in sparring or real fights?
I was born with half of my left arm so I use it to elbow if they get within range, but I've figured I use my legs a good 75% for any strikes.
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Post by ZenGenesis on Jul 11, 2012 3:11:19 GMT -5
So you have half of a left arm and a full right arm?
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Post by odee on Jul 11, 2012 5:29:16 GMT -5
Depends on a number of situations. While I was doing Kyokushin maybe 30% of my strikes were kicks, it's about the same with Muay Thai - I'd also point out that 90% of those are knees or low kicks in either style. About the same for MMA. I don't kick a hell of a lot at all in Brazilian Jujitsu. Just scissor kicks to bring people back to the ground and to roll out from under people.
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Post by cw6jess on Jul 11, 2012 11:53:43 GMT -5
Yeah, I have a full right arm and my left ends a little after the elbow.
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Post by ZenGenesis on Jul 23, 2012 12:34:00 GMT -5
I kick probably about 70% of the time in sparring and freestyling by myself in the backyard. I'm a natural born kicker and i'm really steady, flexible and fluid now with a lot of my training in general (thank you Baguazhang). I kick a lot but i'm good with elbow, knee strikes and I can grapple pretty good and have decent ground game. My punches are average and I need to work on them a little bit but my kicks are my best no doubt.
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Post by Chef Samurai on Jul 25, 2012 16:43:40 GMT -5
I rarely kick lol
I like close range fighting mostly short punches, elbows, knees, headbutts, throws, locks & chokes.
I know how to do them I'm just not a fan because I like to be mobile at all times and at least with my hands I'm mobile & when one is attacking the other can be defending.
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Post by kokoro on Jul 25, 2012 17:32:51 GMT -5
in sparring, depends upon my opponent. what type of fighter he is. as well as what his strengths and weakness are. on average i would say about 30 to 60% of the time.
in a real situation it usually happens right after i spit in the guys face. what can i say i don't like to lose.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2012 4:30:49 GMT -5
The British self defense expert Geoff Thompson wrote that you should never kick in a self defense situation. He says that it compromises balance, opens you up to be taken down or have your legs swept from under you and is not that effective.
Thoughts?
I personally only kick the groin or knee at close distance
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Post by cw6jess on Jul 26, 2012 9:52:46 GMT -5
You see, where I live only about 2% of the population knows anything more than how to swing like an idiot.. So kicks are really quite effective.. I only kick 75% of the time due to my disability and have since made my style to fit me.
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Post by Chef Samurai on Jul 26, 2012 13:27:43 GMT -5
if you can make it fit your style all the better because that means you overcame something that most people can't do like myself I just can't find it useful for my tactics of closing & crushing but if I change my tactics I probably would be not all tactics work equally for all people.
I agree with geoff thompson partly but every situation is different & some warrant kicks while others don't just like some are ok to go to the ground while other times aren't it al depends on the situation & variables.
kicking on a patch of ice could hurt the kicker meanwhile a well placed kick to the knee can cripple a persons leg so they can't chase you if you run away which is best in self defence so it's more than black & white.
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Post by rollingrock128 on Jul 26, 2012 13:56:28 GMT -5
i do a lot of kicking because i come from a mostly tkd and muay thai backround. ive only been in a few street fights in street fights its the first thing i do. keep the range confuse the person and also the shit hurts.
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Post by odee on Jul 26, 2012 17:49:16 GMT -5
Then Geoff Thompston isn't very good at kicking. Kicking is situational, if you stuff up a kick and wind up on your ass you probably had no business kicking in the first place and did it anyway. I use kicks when I get involved in bar fights and they're one of the quickest ways of putting people down. There's people I can hammer at all day with my fists and elbows and never do better than some bruising but I can put a hundred and fifty kilogram Maori on his butt with a front thrust kick or a head kick. There's nothing wrong with kicking, the fault lies in people's judgement.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2012 19:18:29 GMT -5
FYI Geoff Thompston is a Shotokan 6th dan and Judo 2nd dan
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Post by Chef Samurai on Jul 26, 2012 21:29:32 GMT -5
and geof thompson always talks about up close fighting and says kicks have their place but not in most situations that start face to face as shit talking.
I've successfully used kicks before too they work they just have their place like every technique it just so happens the hands are the most versatile without a doubt.
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Post by odee on Jul 26, 2012 22:08:55 GMT -5
Grade is not going to stop me arguing if I feel he's wrong, besides, I've met seventh degree and dan blackbelts whose ability was laughable, even if their ability isn't laughable you still have to use your head when you listen to people. Mas Oyama made comments that I don't buy into about throwing ability being unneccessary to a person who has mastered striking. I still practice what I learned in Kyokushin I just think that was a dumb thing to say. The Gracies made crapped up claims about fights winding up on the ground. I practice Brazilian Jujitsu and I think that statistic is falsified by counting fights that have ended with one person on the ground and the other standing over them. Just because someone outranks you is no reason to take everything they say as law. They're people and it's your job to sort through the nuggets of wisdom and figure out which ones are gold and which are shit.
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