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Post by The Last Airbender on Oct 4, 2012 14:34:34 GMT -5
Which throw would be your go-to attack (grappling-wise) in order to end it or gain immediate control?
For me, I try to close the distance immediately and get right up in the enemies face in order to make him back up and feel uncomfortable from the get go. It makes my Osoto Gari easy peasy.
Any other thoughts about street grappling? Also, when would you PREFER to use grappling over striking in the 'street'?
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Post by Keyboard Warrior on Oct 6, 2012 17:54:00 GMT -5
My initial reaction in a street confrontation would be to go for a single or a double leg. If I'm feeling a little gun shy, like I feel like the person is trained and that I may get kicked or kneed in the face in the process, I'll likely go to clinch. At that point I'll just look to establish some underhooks and I'll work from there. Thats essentially my game plan.
I'm not confident enough in my judo to use it, other than some sacrifice throws...but that doesn't feel good on asphalt lol.
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Post by The Last Airbender on Oct 6, 2012 22:31:18 GMT -5
i know what you mean. i can usually pull of a good Sumi Gaeshi but on the street i usually only use it to defend takedowns as a last resort. i dislike the double cause i feel like every douche watches MMA and thinks they can guillotine someone and, while i feel no threat of being choked out, i dislike the idea of some brute tugging on my head and keeping my sight down for even 30 seconds until his arm tires and he realizes he just choked the hell out of my chin and shoulder...
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Post by odee on Oct 7, 2012 4:45:52 GMT -5
Ashi barai.
I learned it from Karate but I'm lead to believe it is a Judo move as well. I'm not keen on grappling in multiple person situations but if I believe I can throw the person without too much trouple it's going to be a foot-sweep and a hard shove into his buddies.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2013 2:06:21 GMT -5
Osoto Gari or foot sweeps
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Post by odee on Jan 29, 2013 7:18:42 GMT -5
I'm not particularly keen on the osoto gari takedown.
It seems to backfire as often as it succeeds and even when it does succeed the thrower often gets dragged down by the guy he just threw.
That's like me putting someone down with a dou mawashi geri - Even if I do put them down there is a fair chance I'll have to get myself off the ground to face any other bother that may decide to pop up.
Having laid out a con for it I've been training at university with a few guys who have limited capoeria training, they fight well from their backs and knees and can get back to their feet in moments. I'm hoping by training with them I can improve my mobility on the ground and close to the ground, it seems to be paying off in BJJ as well, I might not be a great grappler but being able to move quickly on the ground is consistently getting me the best positions to begin from.
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Post by judomofo on Apr 25, 2013 14:33:57 GMT -5
Osoto Makikomi, Osoto Gari, and Sasae Tsuri Komi Ashi usually. I prefer Osoto most of the time, but more from a competetive side where I land on the person. It really depends on what is given to me, I actually get Koshi Garuma a ton just from where I end up in the clinch.
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Post by Glutton4Punishment on Apr 26, 2013 0:46:13 GMT -5
Good to see you here, Judomofo. Just wanted to say that. We need more activity lately!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2013 3:27:35 GMT -5
I find the foot sweeps under-rated
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Post by The Last Airbender on Apr 30, 2013 18:03:32 GMT -5
Osoto is definitely mine. I really "roll" Uke's shoulders so when I throw him he's landing almost on his shoulders/neck. The majority of people are going to try to immediately pull back and away from you once clinched out of natuarl habit os that really gives the extra force needed if you push when they pull.
Honorable mention: De Ashi Harai, Ko Uchi Gari, and Tani Otoshi (funny story on this one)
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Post by odee on May 1, 2013 1:38:02 GMT -5
I got a question. Has anyone ever practiced, used or seen someone use Ken and Ryu's roll throw from Street Fighter? www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9ph7uJn0K8I've heard people talk about it but never seen it in application, not keen to try it with my gym-mates in case somebody winds up with a busted neck, but to people who practice more throw/clinch specialising styles have you ever used it and what do you think of it? |
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Post by The Last Airbender on May 1, 2013 19:40:13 GMT -5
Absolutely. It's a pretty standard throw in Judo called Tomoe Nage. I personally suck at it but I do Sumi Gaeshi and that has worked wonders for me.
Actually a funny application of it happened in a Korean parliament session.
otherwise, it works in regular grappling too
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Post by odee on May 4, 2013 6:50:47 GMT -5
He rolled nicely into a solid position as well.
Credit where credit is due.
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Post by KyKarateka on May 25, 2013 15:50:22 GMT -5
I'm not sure I would use Judo in the street frankly. I would prefer to stay off the ground on the streets if possible. I'm also not completely confident to use Judo, I know the techniques, I can do them but it's all different on the street.
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Post by odee on May 26, 2013 18:52:53 GMT -5
KyKarateka -
You've probably noticed that I'm not a fan of fighting on the ground either.
Try some practice with getting back to your feet, Capoeriea and Drunken Kung Fu are good places to look for ideas then work on your throws with your Kyokushin classmates, if you go down with them see how much faster you can get up than they can. It's not exactly grappling, although learning some escapes might help you to extract yourself from any tangles your throws cause, if you can get up faster than your classmates you'll usually be in a better position to attack from.
Being highly mobile on the ground has really changed my game in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, it's rare for me to start in a bad position these days.
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