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Jun 27, 2012 11:45:13 GMT -5
Post by Glutton4Punishment on Jun 27, 2012 11:45:13 GMT -5
What are your favorite throws? The ones you go to constantly because they just seem to work for you? That throw that you don't even need to try to get anymore, because you can feel when your opponent is off balance just the right way and it's effortless.
My two go-to throws are Tai Otoshi and the simple but ever so useful O Goshi.
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Keyboard Warrior
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Jun 27, 2012 16:56:08 GMT -5
Post by Keyboard Warrior on Jun 27, 2012 16:56:08 GMT -5
I'm terrible with throws. Though I've seen alot of success with alot of sacrifice throws, like Tomo Nage and Tawara Gaeshi. Those will be my go to moves at my upcoming Judo Tournament.
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Jun 27, 2012 16:56:22 GMT -5
Post by Chef Samurai on Jun 27, 2012 16:56:22 GMT -5
probably the belly to belly supley & the flying mare aka drop seoi nage
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Jun 27, 2012 20:31:06 GMT -5
Post by The Last Airbender on Jun 27, 2012 20:31:06 GMT -5
for no gi I put everyone down with O Soto Gari (tokui waza) and Ashi Guruma. especially in combination. I'm also prficient with the old drop Seoi Nage no-gi also, I've suddenly become very adequate with Uki Goshi. however that hasn't really been available due to the large amount of people with bent waists while in the clinch so I don't have the opportunities for such hip contact but when i do.. ;D
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Jun 27, 2012 23:47:30 GMT -5
Post by talon on Jun 27, 2012 23:47:30 GMT -5
In Zen Do Kai we have a component that is taken from shoot Wrestling this has grappling ground work & throws/ take downs. These are the types of throws/take downs I like doing most {this link shows fairly closely the types we use}: v=mejuFTnNVPweff%20pictures/Throws%20-%20YouTube.htm
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Jun 28, 2012 7:39:21 GMT -5
Post by drunior on Jun 28, 2012 7:39:21 GMT -5
I found leg techniques to work best in a no-gi scenario.
Sasae Tsuri Komi Ashi is very versatile from any clinch. The direction you throw can be changed quite easily depending on the direction your opponent is leaning. Osoto-gari is also great, and the tsuri komi ashi can be used as a feint if your opponent started to anticipate the tsuri komi ashi. Kouchi-gari and Ouchi-gari, done from a rotating angle works very well. Instead of going in straight towards the opponent as I have seen most people attempt this move, perform it while pulling the opponent and having them rotate in a circle. This makes it less likely they will be able to pull you into their guard as they go down (requires really good timing). Harai goshi, or if you botched it up, harai makikomi is a good throw from a clinch. You will pretty much always land on a side control.
With gi, my go-to throw is Ippon Seoi Nage and Tai Otoshi.
Tai Otoshi is a very fun throw. A great way to do Tai Otoshi is to do it on the opposite side of the grip that your opponent is gripping. So you would do a left handed Tai Otoshi if your opponent is gripping you right handed. This is because your left hand can break the grip on the opponent's right hand as you push their arm off with your elbow during the pull/rotation.
Another good Tai Otoshi variation is to enter right handed, but rotate on the first entry step in the opposite direction and come in for a left Tai Otoshi. It takes a bit of practice to get it on point every time. I have sometimes used Tai-Otoshi to bait my opponent and set them up for a seoi nage. You can see an opportunity for a low squat or (if you're tall) drop seoi nage if they step around your tripping leg.
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Jun 28, 2012 10:50:55 GMT -5
Post by The Last Airbender on Jun 28, 2012 10:50:55 GMT -5
O Soto Gari is just so versatile, you can hit it from a thousand different angles and it has alot of power. Tai Otoshi is a very powerful throw. it's low risk high reward. I've never seen anyone end up in a bad position when throwing Tai Otoshi and I've knocked the breath out of a few people with it.
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Jun 28, 2012 14:42:09 GMT -5
Post by jwbulldogs on Jun 28, 2012 14:42:09 GMT -5
Osoto maki komi and osoto gari. Osoto gari is also a great counter. Also some combination throws.
Like ko uchi gari to ouchi gari to tai otoshi or deashi harai into maki or tai otoshi.
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Jun 28, 2012 14:47:35 GMT -5
Post by jwbulldogs on Jun 28, 2012 14:47:35 GMT -5
Personally I never use sacrifice throws. To me they are just too easy to counter. Counter is not the best choice of words. If just gives me a great opportunity to finish you off of the ground. I do have one instructor that loves to use one sacrifice throw. I forget the name of it but it is yoko something. He sets it up really nice. If I got better at it. I might like it too. But i don't practice it to get get better.
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Jun 28, 2012 22:24:22 GMT -5
Post by odee on Jun 28, 2012 22:24:22 GMT -5
Shuto mawashi uke. It's not something I practiced to get but a natural reaction that I had to work to control. Since there is a no grabbing rule in Kyokushin and most Karate full-contact rules I had huge problems with naturally catching feet and wrists at core level. I had to work hard to be able to immediately choose to turn that grab into a deflection or a throw. The reason my favorite is the shuto mawashi uke is that it involves hauling your opponent towards you, giving you a couple of extra moments to chose and branch off in a heap of different applications. For the most part I finish it with a sweep or a shoulder charge but the one time it happened in MMA I went big and used the full application to throw my opponent's leg over his head and cartwheel him into a heap on the mat. Frankly I'm surprised I didn't tear his groin muscles with that.
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Jun 29, 2012 13:18:01 GMT -5
Post by Glutton4Punishment on Jun 29, 2012 13:18:01 GMT -5
Something tells me you would love Judo, Odee. If you get a chance to add it to your repertoire, you should. Even if it only comes in handy once a year for you, it's a lot of fun. And it's a great experience flying through the air over and over again for learning how to relax.
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Jun 29, 2012 19:52:33 GMT -5
Post by odee on Jun 29, 2012 19:52:33 GMT -5
It's definitely on the wish list but I've never lived close to a Judo dojo. At the moment they're all two or three hours and several toll-booths away in the city proper. I just can't afford that.
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Jun 29, 2012 20:11:27 GMT -5
Post by Chef Samurai on Jun 29, 2012 20:11:27 GMT -5
I want to learn this throw slam those knees on pavement lol
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Jun 29, 2012 21:28:24 GMT -5
Post by Glutton4Punishment on Jun 29, 2012 21:28:24 GMT -5
Sometimes Judo clubs exist in places that just don't get advertised enough. If you head to Judoforums and ask about clubs in your area you might be surprised. That's how I found my club and it had some high caliber instructors including an Olympic team competitor from Sydney and Athens. Never know what you'll find if you look a little harder.
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Jun 29, 2012 23:10:05 GMT -5
Post by odee on Jun 29, 2012 23:10:05 GMT -5
True. But Muay Thai was also on my wishlist and I do get a little bit of Judo through Brazilian Jujitsu.
@chef - Is that some kind of suplex?
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