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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2013 14:51:10 GMT -5
In my last post, i'm not talking about K1, i'm talking about strict TKD, Karate etc tournaments and competitions. Those look horrible in those but in K1, I agree that the TKD and Karate fighters seem to hold up so far.
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Post by odee on May 7, 2013 16:48:32 GMT -5
What tournaments are you talking about xBaji? Throw us an example if you would.
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Post by Glutton4Punishment on May 7, 2013 23:44:45 GMT -5
Maybe I should have just said that TKD has some victories, it's definitely not a standout in K1. Park Yong Soo started off with a few wins and then turned into a nobody and pretty much the same can be said about Serkan Yilmaz. Neither of them are BAD fighters, though, or they'd have never gotten to that level of competition to begin with.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2013 4:40:54 GMT -5
Is Chuck Norris a TKD fighter?
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Post by odee on May 8, 2013 6:08:45 GMT -5
Norris in his prime was half TKD and half Karate. No idea which one he took first but he definitely fought in a manner that looked more like Olympic Taekwondo than continuous or even point Karate. www.youtube.com/watch?v=nst4V8BKNF0
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2013 14:32:41 GMT -5
I'm talking about this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXJBn9dNCuoThese look horrible and sloppy in my opinion. Or maybe it might be that it's WTF... XD I thought Chuck Norris was a Tang Soo Do fighter.
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Post by odee on May 10, 2013 13:25:36 GMT -5
Tang Soo Do is a Korean form of Karate, seems to have more in common with Taekwando than any Okinawan or Japanese Karate. Plus Norris practiced TKD at the same time. Point Sparring always looks terrible but it does have a place in training, it should never be a big place though.
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Post by kokoro on May 15, 2013 7:39:52 GMT -5
i think norris was more tang soo do then karate.
my problem with point sparring crap is people turned it into a game of tag. with is total bs. a point was originally representing a technique that would have mane or killed your opponent. now a point represents crap. dont get me started on this subject. i will rant for pages on it.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2013 17:56:55 GMT -5
I'd very much like to hear your rant Kokoro. XD
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Post by odee on May 18, 2013 2:44:42 GMT -5
I think I know what he's talking about, the points have become the goal at the expense of understanding the application that the points were originally awarded for. Point sparring used to represent the ideal of 'one hit, certain kill' the practitioner was awarded points for proving that he/she could have killed their advisary but resisted for the sake of safety, over time of training with the goal of getting points rather than replicating the application. What you wind up with is people who can make lightning-fast strikes but have absolutely no understanding of the move or experience in it's actual use, in short "people turned it into a game of tag". If you've ever been to an open style tournament you will find students who have been trained this way competing in the non-contact and point sparring events and dominating, you can also usually identify them at a glance when some are game enough to try the continuous full-contact. Their form and grace have gone out the window and they get herded around the ring because they've never encountered pushing before, their game is messed up because they have no experience with finishing the techniques.
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