Chef Samurai
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Post by Chef Samurai on Aug 28, 2012 7:32:57 GMT -5
if a guy has a knife those hits he landed trading blows become stabs.
and sometimes you don't even know they have a knife until you get stabbed then it's too late.
it's easier to destroy a knee and run than "win" the fight especially if all your attacks are meant to destroy the knee or set ups to destroy the knee.
in self defence isntead of trying to win by points I'll try to win by doing what would normally get me kicked out of the league and arrested for brutality if it were in the ring/cage.
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Post by odee on Aug 28, 2012 17:31:28 GMT -5
If the other guy has a knife you WILL get cut. if the other guy is prepared to fight you WILL get hit. The people who walk away from these encounters accept these facts and deal with it. The people prepared to take a beating are usually the ones who walk away without receiving one.
Chef, I thought you knew better than to bring up 'teh de4dly'. The street isn't divided into those who cheat and those who don't, it's divided into those who can fight back and those who can't.
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Post by Chef Samurai on Aug 28, 2012 20:40:39 GMT -5
;D I never did any style can be deadly if the user applies it to be but too many are trained in good sportsmanship and fair play over ruthlessness and how to kill if necessary.
Depending on tactics I can stop you from stabbing me especially if im better than you and I can pull of my strategy but if I don;t I will get cut you forget the human element...
if your better than me and I want to hit you I might not be able to no matter how hard I try I don't know what you mean?
you an counter strikes into submissions and throws too instead of just "blocking" or parrying even intercepting is possible.
do you understand interception?
when someone attacks they are less protected than when they are on guard and more susceptible to attack because I could respond countless ways in a split second while your committed to your attack.
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Post by odee on Aug 28, 2012 22:25:56 GMT -5
Remember the wise words of Mike Tyson? "Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face". I'm not the kind of person who would stand in front of someone waving a knife around and yammering "Gonna cut choo fool!" before lunging like an idiot and I AM an idiot and the kind of person who believes in sportsmanship. With that in mind how are you going to guarantee that you will even get the opportunity to respond to an attack? There's a far greater chance that you won't even know you're in a fight until you're wondering who put the knife in your side or what hit you. at that point the guy who has gone round after round struggling against exhaustion and pain is going to have a far better chance than someone who hasn't. The only way you can guarantee a face to face confrontation with early knowledge that you're in a fight is if you go around picking the fights.
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Post by Chef Samurai on Sept 6, 2012 0:43:04 GMT -5
exactly that's because they get rocked from a punch trying to knock them not a grazing chop that cut's a bit of skin.
and I agree there are too damn many variables to really know anything until it's already going on and I think it;s best to know how to deal with a situation instead of hope I can adapt lol
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Post by odee on Sept 6, 2012 7:11:59 GMT -5
If you're thinking about how to put someone who king-hit you down he's obviously failed at his knockout blow and is now facing a likely dizzy but rather pissed off martial artist, not exactly a great place to be. That is where the safe methods will level the field, the cutting chop usually covers four key bases that will make it easier for you to punch the aggressor out later rather than taking big risks like the one he's obviously failed at. Pain Blood Intimidation Sight removal When those start entering a fight the power swings towards the guy who inflicted them rather than the guy wearing them so if you respond to an attack by opening a person's face you've just levelled the battlefield with minimal risk, if you jump up and swing for the fences and a knockout of your own while you're still rocked by his punch chances are you'll miss badly and suffer worse for it. You're not being any smarter than your aggressor.
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Post by Chef Samurai on Sept 6, 2012 15:39:11 GMT -5
I like the finger jab to the eye trying to scratch the retina it`s not guaranteed but it will atleast make them flinch since it`s coming right at their eyes.
I like to think of them as all equally important techniques just they have their situations they are preferable for which often pertains to strategy.
a technique may be wrong for one strategy bit the perfect thing for another I try not to see things as black & white in martial arts.
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Post by jwbulldogs on Sept 6, 2012 15:47:14 GMT -5
What is with the finger thing scratching the eye. If you put your finger in his eye you should be trying to remove the entire eye.
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Post by jwbulldogs on Sept 6, 2012 15:49:02 GMT -5
I don't want him to just flinch. I don't want him to see. If he can't see he is not a threat.You must be close enough to do that. No that is not dirty fighting. It is self defense...:-)
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Post by odee on Sept 6, 2012 18:11:04 GMT -5
I'm not going to dispute the effectiveness of tearing someone's eye out but you're going to have to leave that poor bastard where you dropped him JW. Trying to explain to the cops that you tore someone's eye out in self defense is not going to go over well, the hospital will give you trouble for it too, demanding your details as a witness and all that tripe. Cuts heal, cuts to the eye are more risky but some of them heal too, we don't grow new eyeballs. Chances are good that you'll spend more time in jail than you would have spent in the hospital if you'd just stood there and been pumelled.
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Post by Chef Samurai on Sept 6, 2012 20:47:59 GMT -5
actually the idea of the jeet kune do/fan gung fu finger jab is to just scratch the retina which can recover not poke out the eye thats more of for dart fingers.
another version I like is a palm thrust & finger jab simultaneously so you poke the eyes and palm the nose or chin and if one misses you still have the other but it's a lot more dangerous and you'd have to explain it to the cops...
My defence would be he was trying to kill me so I had to defend myself lol
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Post by Possum on Sept 7, 2012 7:59:58 GMT -5
What is with the finger thing scratching the eye. If you put your finger in his eye you should be trying to remove the entire eye. Ouch!
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Post by Chef Samurai on Sept 7, 2012 8:48:49 GMT -5
gouging out the eye is like stomping the head until the brains pour out... your going to have to explain it to the judge whereas scratching the retina will also blind them but temporarily just like only stomping someones head until they stop moving stopping short of brains oozing out lol
also it's harder to follow up a dart finger (like a nukite for gouging the eye out) with a cross wich is the finger jabs main goal.
like instead of jabbing then crossing I finger jab to scratch the retina causing temporary blindness or if I miss they still flinch and them I use my cross trying for the larynx.
the only thing I like about the finger jab over the dart fingers is if you miss your dart fingers and hit their forehead your fingers will break but finger jabing uses loose fingers to without much power just lots of speed so they won't break.
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Post by jwbulldogs on Sept 7, 2012 23:56:53 GMT -5
Either way my lawyer will have to explain it to someone. When I was young I got into ego driven confrontations. I'm to old for that. I've learned better. I don't care if a person thinks I'm soft, a punk or whatever. But if I'm threatened I'll do whatever it takes to defend my life or my family. I believe I can justify that. I don't want to spend time in prison, but if it means I live or my family live those things are worth it.
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Post by odee on Sept 8, 2012 8:19:37 GMT -5
I'll use the cut. Open a gash, take advantage. Tell the judge I had to pumell him because I'm not skillful enough to work without the beating.
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